R: 16 / I: 31
Let's have a thread about pictures you personally took.
Here are some plants I found around where I live.
Let's have a thread about pictures you personally took.
Here are some plants I found around where I live.
R: 18 / I: 9
Do you not live in a city?
How is that going for you?
Maybe you do live in a city, but you'd rather not?
Is your city comfy?
Do you live in a city?Do you not live in a city?
How is that going for you?
Maybe you do live in a city, but you'd rather not?
R: 33 / I: 6
I hit 31 this year, have had a family for several years. Grew up and still enjoy chan culture yet somehow I've become trapped in suburban normie hell. It's a weird sort of loneliness. Anyone else know this feel?
older posters
(Didn't see a particular thread for this topic so making one) Anyone here married/have a family or otherwise older than the average imageboard user?I hit 31 this year, have had a family for several years. Grew up and still enjoy chan culture yet somehow I've become trapped in suburban normie hell. It's a weird sort of loneliness. Anyone else know this feel?
R: 45 / I: 22
Stop being so negative.
We live in the greatest age known to man.
Stop being so negative.
We live in the greatest age known to man.
R: 213 / I: 71 (sticky)
Chat/community/personal ads are no longer allowed on the rest of the site, except maybe on /hell/.
Important Note: This doesn't mean that you can't talk about communities or chat groups. You could, for example, have a thread where you ask people about web communities they visit. You just can't open your thread with an advertisement.
One post per service please! Duplicate ads may be deleted. This especially includes discord links. To make a permanent discord link, click on instant invite, go to advanced settings, and change the expire time to never. Dead links suck. If your discord link expires, your post will be deleted and you may receive a short warning ban.
Chats & Communities Thread
Do you have a neat web community or chat group you'd like to invite people to? Maybe want to drop your messaging handle and strike up some conversations? Do it here.Chat/community/personal ads are no longer allowed on the rest of the site, except maybe on /hell/.
Important Note: This doesn't mean that you can't talk about communities or chat groups. You could, for example, have a thread where you ask people about web communities they visit. You just can't open your thread with an advertisement.
One post per service please! Duplicate ads may be deleted. This especially includes discord links. To make a permanent discord link, click on instant invite, go to advanced settings, and change the expire time to never. Dead links suck. If your discord link expires, your post will be deleted and you may receive a short warning ban.
R: 137 / I: 48
Do you have any online friends sushi? How did you get them? What do you like to do with them?
I have a problem making online friends, because all the sites I go on are sushi rollymous. I have tried a few forums, but I can never commit to them, and they're usually pretty bad anyway. I dont have time for IRC, and I always make a big old booby of myself in live conversation. Do you think it's possible for me to make online friends, or should I stick to being by myself for the moment?
Online friends
This thread isn't meant to be all about me, even if my writing makes it seem like it, it can be anything to do with friends.Do you have any online friends sushi? How did you get them? What do you like to do with them?
I have a problem making online friends, because all the sites I go on are sushi rollymous. I have tried a few forums, but I can never commit to them, and they're usually pretty bad anyway. I dont have time for IRC, and I always make a big old booby of myself in live conversation. Do you think it's possible for me to make online friends, or should I stick to being by myself for the moment?
R: 4 / I: 0
trippiest anime ever:
https://www.bilibili.com/video/av27555837/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJysfQwRL9E
great AMVs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ln8ugNTuiKA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mz3-uV5u5A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7C1BGAOM3g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRwnEePC2gk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85Iz-_xigS8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5_byHJmq10
https://coub.com/view/bdrewc4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp-Z-kJp2ls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRwnEePC2gk
https://topvideohay.online/topvideohay/mIJEgbPZ2bM/bad-habits-maartn-beats
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN-UIg6co0M
enjoy your trip.
trippiest anime ever:
https://www.bilibili.com/video/av27555837/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJysfQwRL9E
great AMVs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ln8ugNTuiKA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mz3-uV5u5A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7C1BGAOM3g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRwnEePC2gk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85Iz-_xigS8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5_byHJmq10
https://coub.com/view/bdrewc4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp-Z-kJp2ls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRwnEePC2gk
https://topvideohay.online/topvideohay/mIJEgbPZ2bM/bad-habits-maartn-beats
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN-UIg6co0M
enjoy your trip.
R: 265 / I: 122
I'd like to give this a try here.
Every time you visit https://sushigirl.us leave a reply in this thread.
I'd like to give this a try here.
Every time you visit https://sushigirl.us leave a reply in this thread.
R: 0 / I: 0
こんにちわ sushi rolls, can I name post for a bit?
こんにちわ sushi rolls, can I name post for a bit?
R: 22 / I: 4
https://chen2.org
Realtime means you can see every letter as it's being typed. Pretty fun, and creates a brisk pace of discussion that makes it feel almost like an imageboard-irc. See you there~
Realtime Imageboard
Hi all, we've put together a realtime imageboard intended to capture 4chan's comfy 2005-06 character:https://chen2.org
Realtime means you can see every letter as it's being typed. Pretty fun, and creates a brisk pace of discussion that makes it feel almost like an imageboard-irc. See you there~
R: 33 / I: 8
Hey sushis, how the hell do I get off the computer?
I spend practically all day browsing various boards and forums and doing nothing of value. I have a couple non-computer-based hobbies but barely any motivation. I've tried to make my computer time more productive (studying languages, programming, even just watching stuff or playing games) but I can never stick with it because to be honestly I hate the computer and everything to do with it.
I'm at the point where you could call me internet addicted, but it's mostly because I feel like I have nothing else to do. I could stop using the computer, but I have no idea how I'd fill my time. I guess I'd stare at the wall? My social life isn't too vibrant either and that doesn't help.
Has anyone else been here / does anyone have some ideas?
Hey sushis, how the hell do I get off the computer?
I spend practically all day browsing various boards and forums and doing nothing of value. I have a couple non-computer-based hobbies but barely any motivation. I've tried to make my computer time more productive (studying languages, programming, even just watching stuff or playing games) but I can never stick with it because to be honestly I hate the computer and everything to do with it.
I'm at the point where you could call me internet addicted, but it's mostly because I feel like I have nothing else to do. I could stop using the computer, but I have no idea how I'd fill my time. I guess I'd stare at the wall? My social life isn't too vibrant either and that doesn't help.
Has anyone else been here / does anyone have some ideas?
R: 24 / I: 4
I've been meaning to do a language thread, but I thought it would be more interesting if it includes comfy-posting about different parts of the world.
Feel free to share the -best- resources to learn your language or others that you may be aware of!
I know its hard to not get political but please try to keep it civil, or at most do some friendly banter.
I'm from a country that used to belong to the Viceroyalty of the Río de la Plata, my main language is Español, and some tidbits of guaraní/portuguese.
However I'm interested in japanese[0] and russian, and of course, I would like to improve my english.
[0]- https://djtguide.neocities.org/
Have fun.
Language - International Thread
Hello!I've been meaning to do a language thread, but I thought it would be more interesting if it includes comfy-posting about different parts of the world.
Feel free to share the -best- resources to learn your language or others that you may be aware of!
I know its hard to not get political but please try to keep it civil, or at most do some friendly banter.
I'm from a country that used to belong to the Viceroyalty of the Río de la Plata, my main language is Español, and some tidbits of guaraní/portuguese.
However I'm interested in japanese[0] and russian, and of course, I would like to improve my english.
[0]- https://djtguide.neocities.org/
Have fun.
R: 60 / I: 14
Don't know if this kind of topic belongs here. But does anyone else feel utterly repulsed by social media and the climate of virtual interactions especially on platforms where sushi rollymity is an option. Though whether or not sushi rollymous is turned on doesn't make much of a difference in the poor quality content produced. It's an endless repetition of temporary pointless trends and people bandwagoning another's point of view instead of establishing their own. I'm dead tired of the fanatic obsession focused on sex and politics over and over. I don't fucking care. I feel immobilized and unable to interact with most people my age, I don't see the purpose anymore of trying to be social especially in this unfiltered cesspool of vapid thoughts. I gave up on imageboards, lasted a streak reaching a full year. Came back occasionally to small boards to see what's up but I can see the toxicity slowly leaking in.
Don't know if this kind of topic belongs here. But does anyone else feel utterly repulsed by social media and the climate of virtual interactions especially on platforms where sushi rollymity is an option. Though whether or not sushi rollymous is turned on doesn't make much of a difference in the poor quality content produced. It's an endless repetition of temporary pointless trends and people bandwagoning another's point of view instead of establishing their own. I'm dead tired of the fanatic obsession focused on sex and politics over and over. I don't fucking care. I feel immobilized and unable to interact with most people my age, I don't see the purpose anymore of trying to be social especially in this unfiltered cesspool of vapid thoughts. I gave up on imageboards, lasted a streak reaching a full year. Came back occasionally to small boards to see what's up but I can see the toxicity slowly leaking in.
R: 10 / I: 1
What do they think of it? What do you think of it?
I found it really boring and uninspired
The Mandalorian
Do any sushis watch this or know someone who does?What do they think of it? What do you think of it?
I found it really boring and uninspired
R: 101 / I: 67
The audio is: Boards of Canada - roygbiv
The video is of San Francisco in 1905.
https://www.loc.gov/item/00694408/
/comfy/ webm thread
This was one of my favourite threads on the old sushichan. Post comfortable audiovisual experiences utilising the WebMatroska container format.The audio is: Boards of Canada - roygbiv
The video is of San Francisco in 1905.
https://www.loc.gov/item/00694408/
R: 70 / I: 22
what's your experience with love? falling in it, falling out of it, one-sided or mutual.
currently i'm crushing very, very hard on what might be the most unreadable person on earth. i fell in love (i guess) when they asked the professor if they could step out of class and stumbled over whether to say "can i" or "may i". they went with the latter (and said please) and dropped their phone on the way out.
crushing this hard is like throwing my heart and brain in a blender and pulverizing them at the highest speed, but the blender short-circuits and the whole thing just combusts and explodes. i've always been a hopeless romantic, so this is a real weird mix of unsurprising and absolutely terrifying. i've never been so frustrated and so joyful in my life.
how about you, sushis?
love talk
what's your experience with love? falling in it, falling out of it, one-sided or mutual.
currently i'm crushing very, very hard on what might be the most unreadable person on earth. i fell in love (i guess) when they asked the professor if they could step out of class and stumbled over whether to say "can i" or "may i". they went with the latter (and said please) and dropped their phone on the way out.
crushing this hard is like throwing my heart and brain in a blender and pulverizing them at the highest speed, but the blender short-circuits and the whole thing just combusts and explodes. i've always been a hopeless romantic, so this is a real weird mix of unsurprising and absolutely terrifying. i've never been so frustrated and so joyful in my life.
how about you, sushis?
R: 16 / I: 5
Life was pretty much just online friends (gaming) through high school, did a 180 and partied a bunch in college, had a group I hung around with…and now for years it's just been my girlfriend and I. Didn't keep in touch with college people, never pursued friendships outside of work. I still talk to and see a couple of friends from childhood every so often but that's it. I don't even know if I mind very much, but it's something I ponder sometimes.
Socializing
Do any of you enjoy going out/socializing?Life was pretty much just online friends (gaming) through high school, did a 180 and partied a bunch in college, had a group I hung around with…and now for years it's just been my girlfriend and I. Didn't keep in touch with college people, never pursued friendships outside of work. I still talk to and see a couple of friends from childhood every so often but that's it. I don't even know if I mind very much, but it's something I ponder sometimes.
R: 5 / I: 0
It is just sad that there is no hope for snow this Christmas. It does not really feel so special without it. Surprisingly, a lot of people I talked to said that they prefer it that way - what is your opinion, sushi? Or maybe you live in a land of permanent snow or endless deserts, so that problem does not concert you at all?
It is just sad that there is no hope for snow this Christmas. It does not really feel so special without it. Surprisingly, a lot of people I talked to said that they prefer it that way - what is your opinion, sushi? Or maybe you live in a land of permanent snow or endless deserts, so that problem does not concert you at all?
R: 106 / I: 17
Do you enjoy your job? And if you don't explain to me why.
Do you enjoy your job? And if you don't explain to me why.
R: 20 / I: 1
Have you ever looked at other people in your age group and thought to yourself, 'what's wrong with me?'
Oh how I wish to be a kid again.
Have you ever looked at other people in your age group and thought to yourself, 'what's wrong with me?'
Oh how I wish to be a kid again.
R: 25 / I: 6
What are physical features you pay the most attention to?
What are physical features you pay the most attention to?
R: 2 / I: 0
I've got unlimited motivation and passion inside of me, I just feel like it's been permanently held inside of me, meaning all my motivation creates is scenarios in my head where I went through with the action. I have a lot planned but my god I can't get out of the rut that is procrastination
I've got unlimited motivation and passion inside of me, I just feel like it's been permanently held inside of me, meaning all my motivation creates is scenarios in my head where I went through with the action. I have a lot planned but my god I can't get out of the rut that is procrastination
R: 6 / I: 2
I went gliding today with an instructor and did some acrobatics. Shit was cash.
exciting
Most of this board is about the pleasure to be found in the everyday, so I thought we could have something a little different; whats the most exciting thing you've done recently?I went gliding today with an instructor and did some acrobatics. Shit was cash.
R: 70 / I: 10
i'm always looking for something comfy or interesting to listen to in my spare time, and listening to people talk helps me relax a lot.
one podcast i'm a fan of is the wisenheimers podcast which was two animators from newgrounds talking about stupid shit. it ended a while a go, but managed to be pretty funny and chill while it lasted.
i also some lets players like vinesauce, jontron era game grumps and another guy called manlybadasshero who mostly does horror game lp's, but i havent found anything as comfy as i would prefer.
youtubers
does anyone know any particularly comfy youtubers or podcasts?i'm always looking for something comfy or interesting to listen to in my spare time, and listening to people talk helps me relax a lot.
one podcast i'm a fan of is the wisenheimers podcast which was two animators from newgrounds talking about stupid shit. it ended a while a go, but managed to be pretty funny and chill while it lasted.
i also some lets players like vinesauce, jontron era game grumps and another guy called manlybadasshero who mostly does horror game lp's, but i havent found anything as comfy as i would prefer.
R: 78 / I: 26
I went out for dinner tonight and had a few different drinks: a cocktail called Chuck Norris which was bourbon, ginger and lemon; two different drinks in a jar; one spiced rum, pineapple, lime and ginger ale, and the other bourbon, orange, cinnamon and ginger ale. Finished off with some sake. Delicious times all round.
What're you drinking?
What are you having to drink, fellow rolls?I went out for dinner tonight and had a few different drinks: a cocktail called Chuck Norris which was bourbon, ginger and lemon; two different drinks in a jar; one spiced rum, pineapple, lime and ginger ale, and the other bourbon, orange, cinnamon and ginger ale. Finished off with some sake. Delicious times all round.
R: 233 / I: 50
I wish…
What do you wish for?
I wish I had a kind and calm BF who likes books and history, and then we can watch calm anime like yuri on ice. Preferably around the same height and age as me.I wish…
R: 14 / I: 3
I feel like I've blinked and now I'm done with college.
Is the rest of life like this?
I feel like I've blinked and now I'm done with college.
Is the rest of life like this?
R: 6 / I: 2
is compassion contrasted by strength?
I'm too soft and that makes me feel weak
is compassion contrasted by strength?
I'm too soft and that makes me feel weak
R: 11 / I: 1
ASMR is the best for feeling better.
ASMR is the best for living life to the FULLEST.
What is your favorite ASMR, rolls?
ASMR
ASMR is the best for falling asleep.ASMR is the best for feeling better.
ASMR is the best for living life to the FULLEST.
What is your favorite ASMR, rolls?
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Or if you're reading this later: Did you have a good day?
I'm pretty excited for today. Going to finish work on a project and add some new plants to my greenhouse while I still can.
How are you doing today?
Do you have any plans for today sushis?Or if you're reading this later: Did you have a good day?
I'm pretty excited for today. Going to finish work on a project and add some new plants to my greenhouse while I still can.
R: 49 / I: 20
Howdy! How has your day been?
Howdy! How has your day been?
R: 6 / I: 1
My questions to you guys are
- How do you organize your knowledge?
- Do you prefer a unified format, a subject-specific format, or an even more granular format?
- Do you build hierarchies, use tags, or do something else?
- Do you maintain an index specific to a particular audience or subject (e.g., the front page of a wiki)?
- How do you reference other materials (e.g., books, online articles that might disappear).
- Does your format cater to a specific study style? Is it different for different subjects?
- When your note corpus starts becoming large, how do you navigate through it? Searching? Hierarchy? Something else?
- Do you find that your notes match your thinking style several years later, or do you find that you have changed, causing the notes to be less useful?
- Do you focus on creating notes that help you achieve different tasks (e.g., task-based learning)?
- Do you focus on organizing knowledge by minimizing concepts and maximizing orthogonality between concepts?
Organization of Knowledge
I've always been studying something, even when school finished, but I've never really been one to keep my notes or revise them very often. Now, I find myself going back over some of the material because I need to use it in my work. I find myself wondering if my notes would have been useful if I stored them in a better format and revised them more often.My questions to you guys are
- How do you organize your knowledge?
- Do you prefer a unified format, a subject-specific format, or an even more granular format?
- Do you build hierarchies, use tags, or do something else?
- Do you maintain an index specific to a particular audience or subject (e.g., the front page of a wiki)?
- How do you reference other materials (e.g., books, online articles that might disappear).
- Does your format cater to a specific study style? Is it different for different subjects?
- When your note corpus starts becoming large, how do you navigate through it? Searching? Hierarchy? Something else?
- Do you find that your notes match your thinking style several years later, or do you find that you have changed, causing the notes to be less useful?
- Do you focus on creating notes that help you achieve different tasks (e.g., task-based learning)?
- Do you focus on organizing knowledge by minimizing concepts and maximizing orthogonality between concepts?
R: 17 / I: 5
I'm moving off to college in 7 days, I'm really excited to move out but I'm going to be busy 24/7 it seems like with working to pay rent, I have my tuition all figured out through scholarships and ~$3000 in loans, I think I'm gonna do alright.
Any tips for a wagie/student to get by in college?
>pic related is my laptop, totally unrelated to post
I'm moving off to college in 7 days, I'm really excited to move out but I'm going to be busy 24/7 it seems like with working to pay rent, I have my tuition all figured out through scholarships and ~$3000 in loans, I think I'm gonna do alright.
Any tips for a wagie/student to get by in college?
>pic related is my laptop, totally unrelated to post
R: 0 / I: 0
This chan is very nice
Not all content is nice, but the chan is nice
This chan is very nice
Not all content is nice, but the chan is nice
R: 256 / I: 99
Name one thing you're currently happy about
> moving to a cool city in two weeks
Name one thing you're currently happy about
> moving to a cool city in two weeks
R: 7 / I: 3
Holy shit, finishing this show felt like losing my best friend. Watching the whole thing in a single day was the biggest mistake of my life, why do I keep forming emotional connections to fictional characters?
Holy shit, finishing this show felt like losing my best friend. Watching the whole thing in a single day was the biggest mistake of my life, why do I keep forming emotional connections to fictional characters?
R: 9 / I: 2
I went to the my first party last night (18) and got absolutely wasted and puked a lot. I've gotten drunk before but not that drunk, it really wasn't that fun once I started puking and I don't remember much afterwards. At least I had a friendo that was caring for me and not letting me die
I went to the my first party last night (18) and got absolutely wasted and puked a lot. I've gotten drunk before but not that drunk, it really wasn't that fun once I started puking and I don't remember much afterwards. At least I had a friendo that was caring for me and not letting me die
R: 23 / I: 5
>post about my research projects in academia
>5 likes
>friend posts a selfie for the thousandth time
>it even looks like their previous selfies
>20-50 likes
why
>post about my research projects in academia
>5 likes
>friend posts a selfie for the thousandth time
>it even looks like their previous selfies
>20-50 likes
why
R: 4 / I: 2
Liru the Werewolf
Liru is a miracle of the universe.
R: 8 / I: 4
There's probably a better place to post this, but does anyone have any tips on dealing with parents who treat you like a child? I mean, even as a child it was pretty bad, but now I'm an adult who's not allowed to cook food or ride the bus by himself (and as such doesn't know how to do anything and probably looks like a massive retard 24/7). My original plan was to escape by going to university, but now it looks like that won't happen for at least another year. I want to spend my life exploring the world, but in the meantime I'd like to at least have the freedom to exist in different locations than my house and theoretically be able to survive if they were to leave me alone for a week.
There's probably a better place to post this, but does anyone have any tips on dealing with parents who treat you like a child? I mean, even as a child it was pretty bad, but now I'm an adult who's not allowed to cook food or ride the bus by himself (and as such doesn't know how to do anything and probably looks like a massive retard 24/7). My original plan was to escape by going to university, but now it looks like that won't happen for at least another year. I want to spend my life exploring the world, but in the meantime I'd like to at least have the freedom to exist in different locations than my house and theoretically be able to survive if they were to leave me alone for a week.
R: 6 / I: 2
Well sushis, I finally moved out.
My mom cried when she left my place since I moved ~5 hours away for school, which really isn't that far but my mom is a very emotional person.
Her crying made me cry a little bit but I'm excited to meet some new people and hopefully make some new friends.
They left me with some booze so later tonight I'll probably have a little celebratory drink ^_^
Well sushis, I finally moved out.
My mom cried when she left my place since I moved ~5 hours away for school, which really isn't that far but my mom is a very emotional person.
Her crying made me cry a little bit but I'm excited to meet some new people and hopefully make some new friends.
They left me with some booze so later tonight I'll probably have a little celebratory drink ^_^
R: 1 / I: 0
Post good stuff that comes to mind
Today I slept for 8 hours for the first time in weeks. Later the day I witnessed an honest smile. That's a nice day if I ever had one.
R: 41 / I: 6
Non-Christians welcome. The bible is a great place for wisdom and comfort, even if you don't believe.
Comfy Christians
Any comfy Christians having a nice time? Whats has been happening in your life. How have you felt god in your life recently?Non-Christians welcome. The bible is a great place for wisdom and comfort, even if you don't believe.
R: 19 / I: 0
Why does it feel like in the English speaking internet everyone take your words as an attack on their hobbies/personalities and instantly start being passive aggressive towards whatever it is you're saying?
Have you noticed the same? How do you deal with this phenomena?
Why does it feel like in the English speaking internet everyone take your words as an attack on their hobbies/personalities and instantly start being passive aggressive towards whatever it is you're saying?
Have you noticed the same? How do you deal with this phenomena?
R: 7 / I: 1
I was thinking that my problem is related to attention and could be helped by meditating. I've never done it and I don't really know how, but maybe some of you have tried it before.
It sounds kind of woo woo to be honest.
Meditation & Problem Solving
Does anyone have trouble solving problems after a continuous period of solving problems? It feels like I can't think logically after working on a problem for about three hours, even if I take a break. Those hours also have to occur immediately after I wake up. Taking a nap helps.I was thinking that my problem is related to attention and could be helped by meditating. I've never done it and I don't really know how, but maybe some of you have tried it before.
It sounds kind of woo woo to be honest.
R: 8 / I: 4
posting something random from his pictures folder, idk what it is but i guess we'll find out together lol
wtf is this site?
my brother left it open on his computer, anyone care to tell me what a guy who rides around in a custom motorcycle jacket with his name on the back is doing on such a girly forum??posting something random from his pictures folder, idk what it is but i guess we'll find out together lol
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I would like to live in a cozy wooded area around 30 minutes away from town. I'd like a greenhouse to grow vegetables and herbs somewhere on the place too.
the inside would have to be hella comfy. Maybe a small A-frame style cabin? I'd like to have a firewood stove as well. As well as plenty of space to store my books!
What's your idea of cozy livin'?
Cozy living quarters
Where would you like to live sushi?I would like to live in a cozy wooded area around 30 minutes away from town. I'd like a greenhouse to grow vegetables and herbs somewhere on the place too.
the inside would have to be hella comfy. Maybe a small A-frame style cabin? I'd like to have a firewood stove as well. As well as plenty of space to store my books!
What's your idea of cozy livin'?
R: 4 / I: 1
This place seems comfy
This place seems comfy
R: 8 / I: 0
I'm gonna ask the people I'm living with if they mind if I get a cat because it'll be the first time for me without a pet
hope I can make my living space /comfy/
henlo
so I just found this board and it seems very comfy, I'm moving to another city in about a month and have been very confused whether or not it'll make me happier or not.I'm gonna ask the people I'm living with if they mind if I get a cat because it'll be the first time for me without a pet
hope I can make my living space /comfy/
R: 4 / I: 1
Hibike! Euphonium is beautiful and S02E05 is best thing I experienced in my whole adventure with anime.
I can not find adequate words to describe the cruelty KyoAni encountered.
Hibike! Euphonium is beautiful and S02E05 is best thing I experienced in my whole adventure with anime.
I can not find adequate words to describe the cruelty KyoAni encountered.
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Recently I've read up a few things about it and found it very appealing. In addition to that I've watched a few youtube videos from the dude who lived in the mountains with a Dao master and how it affected his personality.
I find the philosophical concepts very good. The "mindfulness" thing helped me to overcome social anxiety partially. Also the entire talk about nature made me want to go outside more, which was a completely foreign concept to me a year ago.
Here's some of the teachings (paraphrased by me) which I found cool and really useful:
>eat until you're 80% full
I thought that it sounded like some dumb diet for single moms, but it really makes you feel better in the long run. I didn't notice much change a few weeks in, but after a few months I found out that I no longer feel heavy in the stomach after eating, don't feel sleepy and have my sugar levels much more stable.
>focus on being "right now"
This is the "mindfulness" thing. When you feel anxious or something like that, switch all of your attention to the "current" moment. Focus on the fact that you live right here and right now, not in the past or in the future. You're a human being who functions and interacts with the environment right here and now.
>appreciate being a part of the nature's natural way
Everything around you naturally flows and lives on its own - the insects, the animals, the plants, other people, etc. You're part of this flow. Act in the most natural way in order to preserve the flow. Appreciate the ecosystem you're a part of.
>for every "yin" there will always be "yang"
The famous "yin yang" thing is part of the daoism philosophy. Put short, there's no yang ("light") without yin ("darkness"). Without bad, there's no good. If you only want good, you'll eventually have to pay the price for it. If something bad happens to you, it means that good will follow.
This concept is applicable to many more cases, but I think it's a very good mindset to have.
If you're interested in more, try reading Tao Te Ching (Dao De Jing).
I recommend this version: https://terebess.hu/english/tao/DerekLin.html
Here's a video from the abovementioned channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kij4kKSGzCE
Taoism
Does anyone here practice Taoism?Recently I've read up a few things about it and found it very appealing. In addition to that I've watched a few youtube videos from the dude who lived in the mountains with a Dao master and how it affected his personality.
I find the philosophical concepts very good. The "mindfulness" thing helped me to overcome social anxiety partially. Also the entire talk about nature made me want to go outside more, which was a completely foreign concept to me a year ago.
Here's some of the teachings (paraphrased by me) which I found cool and really useful:
>eat until you're 80% full
I thought that it sounded like some dumb diet for single moms, but it really makes you feel better in the long run. I didn't notice much change a few weeks in, but after a few months I found out that I no longer feel heavy in the stomach after eating, don't feel sleepy and have my sugar levels much more stable.
>focus on being "right now"
This is the "mindfulness" thing. When you feel anxious or something like that, switch all of your attention to the "current" moment. Focus on the fact that you live right here and right now, not in the past or in the future. You're a human being who functions and interacts with the environment right here and now.
>appreciate being a part of the nature's natural way
Everything around you naturally flows and lives on its own - the insects, the animals, the plants, other people, etc. You're part of this flow. Act in the most natural way in order to preserve the flow. Appreciate the ecosystem you're a part of.
>for every "yin" there will always be "yang"
The famous "yin yang" thing is part of the daoism philosophy. Put short, there's no yang ("light") without yin ("darkness"). Without bad, there's no good. If you only want good, you'll eventually have to pay the price for it. If something bad happens to you, it means that good will follow.
This concept is applicable to many more cases, but I think it's a very good mindset to have.
If you're interested in more, try reading Tao Te Ching (Dao De Jing).
I recommend this version: https://terebess.hu/english/tao/DerekLin.html
Here's a video from the abovementioned channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kij4kKSGzCE
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Noriko the fake Hikikomori Neet
https://youtu.be/QsvBi3LskFM
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Newfag Here
Place looks comfier than other chans, anything I should know about the site?
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I'm a peaceful and squeamish guy. I even feel sorry for killing bugs
even so, I took an interest in the army and the navy (I'm not a yank). there's something so cool about their disciplined and hard life, how those institutions can whip people without courage, without a purpouse, a goal, or a skill into shape. it truly is a beautiful thing to behold. I like how they harden mind and body just so average joes can face the unexpected. plus you learn cool things too, from survival techniques to self-defense and trades
and hey, paying you to learn all these things is great
still, I can't even think about myself harming someone else, and that's the biggest downside. it's pretty much what they train you for, too. are there any other similar careers that teach you similar values but don't revolve around harming others? I was thinking about becoming a fireman or a park ranger. similar enough?
I'm a peaceful and squeamish guy. I even feel sorry for killing bugs
even so, I took an interest in the army and the navy (I'm not a yank). there's something so cool about their disciplined and hard life, how those institutions can whip people without courage, without a purpouse, a goal, or a skill into shape. it truly is a beautiful thing to behold. I like how they harden mind and body just so average joes can face the unexpected. plus you learn cool things too, from survival techniques to self-defense and trades
and hey, paying you to learn all these things is great
still, I can't even think about myself harming someone else, and that's the biggest downside. it's pretty much what they train you for, too. are there any other similar careers that teach you similar values but don't revolve around harming others? I was thinking about becoming a fireman or a park ranger. similar enough?
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Pre-2010 videos
Post some solid gold oldies.
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Do you have faith, sushi?
I have this old memory when I, as a kid, lost a precious toy. Asked God to help me find it, but to no avail. I blamed God for this misfortune and declared that I no longer believe.
Now I would say I am an agnostic, but I think I really want to find God. God, as someone to talk to, to confess to and to find support in. Lately I faced a lot of difficulties and praying helped me. I even made few liabilities, that I now struggle to accomplish.
When things go well I forget about my prayings and obligations, there is that thought that it is all my work and not some old dude above my head. Until now I went by this and it made me feel like a tiny, tiny man.
I really want to believe, but something is stopping me. Please, share something about yourself.
Do you have faith, sushi?
I have this old memory when I, as a kid, lost a precious toy. Asked God to help me find it, but to no avail. I blamed God for this misfortune and declared that I no longer believe.
Now I would say I am an agnostic, but I think I really want to find God. God, as someone to talk to, to confess to and to find support in. Lately I faced a lot of difficulties and praying helped me. I even made few liabilities, that I now struggle to accomplish.
When things go well I forget about my prayings and obligations, there is that thought that it is all my work and not some old dude above my head. Until now I went by this and it made me feel like a tiny, tiny man.
I really want to believe, but something is stopping me. Please, share something about yourself.
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Researching anything else is forbidden… at least as far as your advisers are concerned. All your special track research has to be hush hush while you slowly crank out regular mainline track papers.
Eventually, you either realize your idea and decide it's not worth sharing with your community or you move on, having failed to realize your brilliant idea.
There's no winning!
めんどくさいね。。。
Research
Did you know that even in research there is a mainline research track trailing behind big companies or well-known names?Researching anything else is forbidden… at least as far as your advisers are concerned. All your special track research has to be hush hush while you slowly crank out regular mainline track papers.
Eventually, you either realize your idea and decide it's not worth sharing with your community or you move on, having failed to realize your brilliant idea.
There's no winning!
めんどくさいね。。。
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Hello sushi, do you own a car?
I just bought Audi A4 B5 1.6 and it is mad fun.
Hello sushi, do you own a car?
I just bought Audi A4 B5 1.6 and it is mad fun.
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humorous youtube videos
hello sushis let have a thread where we post youtube videos we find funny
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I will do any comissions, check me out, OC's, traditional as well as digital, whatever you feel like.
Comissions
https://mobile.twitter.com/Bendart2I will do any comissions, check me out, OC's, traditional as well as digital, whatever you feel like.
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How do you deal with pathological liars? Have you ever encountered any?
I've been lying pathologically for most of my childhood, and stopping doing so was the best change I've made in my life. I believe it passed to me from my mother, who to this day lies a lot.
However recently I've encountered a person who lies very much. It's a girl, we've got normal friendly relationships, neither of us is romantically interested or anything like that. However, for the little time we talk, I can see that she lies quite a lot.
Those lies are mostly about achievements or something similar. I don't care about them, it's just an indicator for me to not get surprised next time when she gives a different answer when we touch this topic. Something like that.
But I wonder how people deal with those. Do you call them out? Do you try to avoid the person or do you continue to communicate normally?
How do you deal with pathological liars? Have you ever encountered any?
I've been lying pathologically for most of my childhood, and stopping doing so was the best change I've made in my life. I believe it passed to me from my mother, who to this day lies a lot.
However recently I've encountered a person who lies very much. It's a girl, we've got normal friendly relationships, neither of us is romantically interested or anything like that. However, for the little time we talk, I can see that she lies quite a lot.
Those lies are mostly about achievements or something similar. I don't care about them, it's just an indicator for me to not get surprised next time when she gives a different answer when we touch this topic. Something like that.
But I wonder how people deal with those. Do you call them out? Do you try to avoid the person or do you continue to communicate normally?
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What are your coping methods?
I browse through various internet message boards posting my sadness away. It's becoming very unhealthy but it's my only cope my only friend. Music also helps me a lot with coping.
What are your coping methods?
I browse through various internet message boards posting my sadness away. It's becoming very unhealthy but it's my only cope my only friend. Music also helps me a lot with coping.
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I recently saw this video
https://youtu.be/eh8U6SLvNgs
I realized that I never learned how to play chess. Nobody in my family plays it anymore so I never bothered to learn. But after reading so many amazing stories about this game I really felt urge to learn it and get decent at it.
Couple of days ago I started playing regularly on lichess; I'm still really bad but it has been lots of fun so far.
Do you have any interesting stories about chess? Any tips for beginner like me?
Lets have a thread about comfiest game ever.
I recently saw this video
https://youtu.be/eh8U6SLvNgs
I realized that I never learned how to play chess. Nobody in my family plays it anymore so I never bothered to learn. But after reading so many amazing stories about this game I really felt urge to learn it and get decent at it.
Couple of days ago I started playing regularly on lichess; I'm still really bad but it has been lots of fun so far.
Do you have any interesting stories about chess? Any tips for beginner like me?
Lets have a thread about comfiest game ever.
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There's something peculiar about falling asleep as the first rays of dawn start peeking in through your blinds. A feeling of guilt, mixed with comfiness, as you fall asleep when everyone else rises from their slumber. Unhealthy, but acceptable in reasonable amounts.
It happens to me far too often, though…
When do sushi rolls usually fall asleep? I don't doubt there are other people here with wack schedules.
There's something peculiar about falling asleep as the first rays of dawn start peeking in through your blinds. A feeling of guilt, mixed with comfiness, as you fall asleep when everyone else rises from their slumber. Unhealthy, but acceptable in reasonable amounts.
It happens to me far too often, though…
When do sushi rolls usually fall asleep? I don't doubt there are other people here with wack schedules.
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I barely buy anything that is not food, but recently I bought Burzum t-shirt - first piece of clothing in like 4 years. Mind you, I am not homeless or dirty - I just treat my stuff well and my style is eternally good.
Anyway, felt nice when I wore it, but quickly I realised that consumerism has started to corrupt me.
I tamed it, I had to stop buying pencils, rubbers, stuff for work, but it was all for my mental wellbeing. I also threw away my desk, couch and all chairs. I could gladly say that unlike filthy casuals 'things' have no impact on me.
Everything was good, 'till yesterday. I got a present.
Cyberpunk 2077 t-shirt. New, original, reserved only for developer team.
I barely buy anything that is not food, but recently I bought Burzum t-shirt - first piece of clothing in like 4 years. Mind you, I am not homeless or dirty - I just treat my stuff well and my style is eternally good.
Anyway, felt nice when I wore it, but quickly I realised that consumerism has started to corrupt me.
I tamed it, I had to stop buying pencils, rubbers, stuff for work, but it was all for my mental wellbeing. I also threw away my desk, couch and all chairs. I could gladly say that unlike filthy casuals 'things' have no impact on me.
Everything was good, 'till yesterday. I got a present.
Cyberpunk 2077 t-shirt. New, original, reserved only for developer team.
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Hello frens.
I want to add a new imageboard to my repertoire. Why should I stay on this board instead of the dozens and dozens of other semi-dead boards out there? I am not even really sure if imageboards are worth it at all right now, since all of them seem to be dying.
Sincerely
Hello frens.
I want to add a new imageboard to my repertoire. Why should I stay on this board instead of the dozens and dozens of other semi-dead boards out there? I am not even really sure if imageboards are worth it at all right now, since all of them seem to be dying.
Sincerely
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Fuck it.
I am in bad mood for almost 2 weeks now, and this shit happens every fucking year at the same time (mid January until mid February).
>changing my mood but every night I go to sleep feeling depressed
>not productive
>bad shit happens at least once a week
>i become super sensitive and emotional
>and on top of all that i think i am falling in love with one of my only girl friends
Not sure what to do. Should I just wait or make some moves. I hope this ends soon.
Fuck it.
I am in bad mood for almost 2 weeks now, and this shit happens every fucking year at the same time (mid January until mid February).
>changing my mood but every night I go to sleep feeling depressed
>not productive
>bad shit happens at least once a week
>i become super sensitive and emotional
>and on top of all that i think i am falling in love with one of my only girl friends
Not sure what to do. Should I just wait or make some moves. I hope this ends soon.
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This doesn't evoke any emotion when I read it. Is this because the writer is bad or is it because I didn't put enough effort into feeling it?
Writing Descriptively
>Billie's legs are noodles. The ends of her hair are poison needles. Her tongue is a bristly sponge, and her eyes are bags of bleach.This doesn't evoke any emotion when I read it. Is this because the writer is bad or is it because I didn't put enough effort into feeling it?
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Recently I went to the laundry room to clean some clothes. I like to hang around in the laundry room and play video games and keep an eye on my clothes because I don't trust people not to take them out of the machine.
Sitting at the table was a man wearing a US Marines (or some other military) cap, I guess he was a veteran but I didn't ask. He had a creaky old laptop on the table and was playing a Christmas themed hidden objects game.
Pic unrelated.
Comfy strangers
Let's tell each other about strangers doing things that made you feel comfy.Recently I went to the laundry room to clean some clothes. I like to hang around in the laundry room and play video games and keep an eye on my clothes because I don't trust people not to take them out of the machine.
Sitting at the table was a man wearing a US Marines (or some other military) cap, I guess he was a veteran but I didn't ask. He had a creaky old laptop on the table and was playing a Christmas themed hidden objects game.
Pic unrelated.
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I find that one of the best ways to do both consistently is training yourself in martial arts. An good starting point for learning shaolin kung fu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f8zb_QKZEo .
One of the ways I train mentally is by doing regular meditation. If you are new to meditaion and don't know what style to pick, start with Zazen - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL2XUTeoUsM (turn on captions). Some other techniques that I like are detailed here: https://tricycle.org/magazine/tibetan-buddhist-meditation/ .
I think it's important to learn to feel what the chinese call qi. That does not mean you have to become religious or convince yourself that it is anything more than a phychological phenominon, but the reason I think it's important is that it can be used to reach a meditative state even when going about your daily activities. I'm not an expert, but I think a good method is to sit or lie in a position that allows you to breath with your stomach (make sure to remove constraints like belts), close your eyes and take slow, deep breaths with your stomach. As you breath in, imagine energy slowly rising from the base of your spine to the top of your scalp, and as you slowly breath out imagine that energy sinking from your scalp back down to the base of your spine.
Keeping Healthy
What do you rolls do to keep a healthy body and mind?I find that one of the best ways to do both consistently is training yourself in martial arts. An good starting point for learning shaolin kung fu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f8zb_QKZEo .
One of the ways I train mentally is by doing regular meditation. If you are new to meditaion and don't know what style to pick, start with Zazen - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL2XUTeoUsM (turn on captions). Some other techniques that I like are detailed here: https://tricycle.org/magazine/tibetan-buddhist-meditation/ .
I think it's important to learn to feel what the chinese call qi. That does not mean you have to become religious or convince yourself that it is anything more than a phychological phenominon, but the reason I think it's important is that it can be used to reach a meditative state even when going about your daily activities. I'm not an expert, but I think a good method is to sit or lie in a position that allows you to breath with your stomach (make sure to remove constraints like belts), close your eyes and take slow, deep breaths with your stomach. As you breath in, imagine energy slowly rising from the base of your spine to the top of your scalp, and as you slowly breath out imagine that energy sinking from your scalp back down to the base of your spine.
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go hug yourselves normies
hello is this a normie board?
do you guys have friends outside the internet or anything like that? if so:go hug yourselves normies
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ITT: Your life changes forever.
Stare into the face of Seinfinity, and you will know truth. Only through the magic of Seinfinity can one hope to gain true knowledge of the universe. The secrets of all existence lie within this thread.
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what did i do wrong
where does the .75 come from
what did i do wrong
where does the .75 come from
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Also post your comfiest Christmas pictures.
Holiday season is here!
What are your plans for the upcoming holidays?Also post your comfiest Christmas pictures.
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rainy days
What is a good thing to do on rainy days? Also post rainy pictures for maximum comfort!
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ok sushirolls, some big shit happening right now and i need a little advice…
> be 20, college dropout (compsci)
> doing webshit contracting
> can't find work lel, no money
> evicted
> a while ago met this girl on irc and really hit it off, started talking about like utena and old movies and then just like life in general
> we're talking every day now, sometimes for hours
> so yeh, sitting in the library with laptop and all my junk (not much, just like a couple bags with clothes or whatever, like i said, i'm poor)
> tell girl i got evicted and she immediately asks me to come live with her
> apparently she lives with her brother and older sister in their dead parents' house
> really want to go, but feeling a little tentative
so yeh, the situation sounds a little weird, but at the same time i don't have anywhere else to go and also i really want to be with her…
i guess i came here because i trust you all the most.
what do?
(and yes, the girl is a tran. we've done video chat a few times and she's cute, fuck off)
ok sushirolls, some big shit happening right now and i need a little advice…
> be 20, college dropout (compsci)
> doing webshit contracting
> can't find work lel, no money
> evicted
> a while ago met this girl on irc and really hit it off, started talking about like utena and old movies and then just like life in general
> we're talking every day now, sometimes for hours
> so yeh, sitting in the library with laptop and all my junk (not much, just like a couple bags with clothes or whatever, like i said, i'm poor)
> tell girl i got evicted and she immediately asks me to come live with her
> apparently she lives with her brother and older sister in their dead parents' house
> really want to go, but feeling a little tentative
so yeh, the situation sounds a little weird, but at the same time i don't have anywhere else to go and also i really want to be with her…
i guess i came here because i trust you all the most.
what do?
(and yes, the girl is a tran. we've done video chat a few times and she's cute, fuck off)
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https://kotchan.org/chat/int
kotchan invitational threada
Greetings from kotchan, we're kots there.https://kotchan.org/chat/int
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Yesterday was my birthday and girl I wanted to ask to prom texted me that she will show up at my school.
Fortunate event. Got haircut and shaved myself, think I am good looking when I am fresh - you guys
even complimented me on face thread. I met her, few words exchanged and I asked her on spot. She said
no, because she had exams on her university, but I felt like she was going to say yes at first. Mind you, this was
the prettiest girl I know and I felt really confident talking so casually to her, knowing that everyone
was prolly looking at us. Later I heard that few guys had same problem, their girls just had to study for colloquiums.
Regardless, I felt really confident after that talk. I just wish I could have been always like that.
Yesterday was my birthday and girl I wanted to ask to prom texted me that she will show up at my school.
Fortunate event. Got haircut and shaved myself, think I am good looking when I am fresh - you guys
even complimented me on face thread. I met her, few words exchanged and I asked her on spot. She said
no, because she had exams on her university, but I felt like she was going to say yes at first. Mind you, this was
the prettiest girl I know and I felt really confident talking so casually to her, knowing that everyone
was prolly looking at us. Later I heard that few guys had same problem, their girls just had to study for colloquiums.
Regardless, I felt really confident after that talk. I just wish I could have been always like that.
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What’s the thoughts on using candles, incense, etc.
What natural smells are nicest when replicated
Air
Air quality is up since the 19th century. Humans have a strong sense of smell.What’s the thoughts on using candles, incense, etc.
What natural smells are nicest when replicated
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I really like cowboy bebop's aesthetic.
I really like cowboy bebop's aesthetic.
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My friend invited me to celebrate Thanksgiving with his family (because I live far away from my family), but I have really bad social anxiety and I'd rather not go. What should I do? The only other alternative is to stay at my apartment and spend it by myself.
My friend invited me to celebrate Thanksgiving with his family (because I live far away from my family), but I have really bad social anxiety and I'd rather not go. What should I do? The only other alternative is to stay at my apartment and spend it by myself.
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even if you don't, enjoy this picture of winwin.
KPOP
anyone here like kpop?even if you don't, enjoy this picture of winwin.
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It was so bad I couldn't even look people in the eye and I would start shaking whenever I feel like I am looked at, I would run out of classrooms at university because of anxiety attacks.
I can't remember what I was on back at the time.
I have now started a new course ( which basically guranatees a job ) and it's back. It's more under control because I am more mature and have learned to breathe, try to calm myself and distract myself but it still doesn't let me function as a human being. ( + )
I am too poor to afford therapy but my cousin works as a nurse. I have access to: paroxetine, citalopram, sertraline, venlafaxine, regabalin, tradozone and alprazolam.
( + ) I'm currently anticipating social situations and taking 0.50 of xanax ahead with like half or 3 quarters of an hour but this will not last me long because I'm developing resilience to the drug ( I used to take 0.25 ).
I exercise using the bodyweight fitness app whenever I can. I do not drink coffee, alcohol or energy drinks. I used to drink tea but at some point I realised black tea unsettles me and I kind of stopped.
My concerns are anhedonia and gaining weight because this happened last time.
I plan on informing myself for a few weeks first and I am seeking help.
If you can and want please share this post to communities which you think might me knowledgeable.
< this was crossposted from /ratsushi roll/ I am op >
<i t was also poseted on uboa and lain >
sam hyde here, internet's busiest music nerd
In the past I have been diagnosed with general anxiety disorder and more specifically social anxiety disorder.It was so bad I couldn't even look people in the eye and I would start shaking whenever I feel like I am looked at, I would run out of classrooms at university because of anxiety attacks.
I can't remember what I was on back at the time.
I have now started a new course ( which basically guranatees a job ) and it's back. It's more under control because I am more mature and have learned to breathe, try to calm myself and distract myself but it still doesn't let me function as a human being. ( + )
I am too poor to afford therapy but my cousin works as a nurse. I have access to: paroxetine, citalopram, sertraline, venlafaxine, regabalin, tradozone and alprazolam.
( + ) I'm currently anticipating social situations and taking 0.50 of xanax ahead with like half or 3 quarters of an hour but this will not last me long because I'm developing resilience to the drug ( I used to take 0.25 ).
I exercise using the bodyweight fitness app whenever I can. I do not drink coffee, alcohol or energy drinks. I used to drink tea but at some point I realised black tea unsettles me and I kind of stopped.
My concerns are anhedonia and gaining weight because this happened last time.
I plan on informing myself for a few weeks first and I am seeking help.
If you can and want please share this post to communities which you think might me knowledgeable.
< this was crossposted from /ratsushi roll/ I am op >
<i t was also poseted on uboa and lain >
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How do you stay productive when doing creative tasks that you haven't done before?
How do you stay productive when doing creative tasks that you haven't done before?