I've been meaning to do a language thread, but I thought it would be more interesting if it includes comfy-posting about different parts of the world.
Feel free to share the -best- resources to learn your language or others that you may be aware of!
I know its hard to not get political but please try to keep it civil, or at most do some friendly banter.
I'm from a country that used to belong to the Viceroyalty of the Río de la Plata, my main language is Español, and some tidbits of guaraní/portuguese.
However I'm interested in japanese and russian, and of course, I would like to improve my english.
I don't know if this is what you had in mind, but I can really recommend visiting Croatia. I know people say this about everywhere you go (probably because it is true, for the most part) but the people there really were lovely. We stayed opposite a restaurant once and the waiters brought food to our apartment because there was no space indoors and it was pouring with rain.
I can't speak a word of any language other than English and it really bothers me when I go to foreign countries; it feels so impolite. I guess I should be trying to change that.
Woah, less than an hour for a reply, it's my lucky day, hehe.
Regarding your doubts: of course, everyone feel free to share their experiences.
I really recommend visiting Argentina, for most rolls out there it can be pretty cheap!
Also considering the country latitude you'll have lots of climates and regions to wander.
Personal advice: if you ever want to come here, ask in /int/ or r/argentina for advice.
Pic related might feel familiar for polite/viking rolls.
Hah, Croatian sushi roll here! I certainly didn't expect my country to be mentioned on sushi of all places.
Hope you had a nice stay!
Our economy isn't doing too good, so we are quite tourism-oriented, though I personally don't really like how the place is basically becoming a vacation resort for foreigners while our own people leave to find work abroad :^( Oh well.
>I can't speak a word of any language other than English and it really bothers me when I go to foreign countries; it feels so impolite. I guess I should be trying to change that.
Hmm, I honestly don't think it's that big of a deal, so long as you're visiting European countries, maybe minus Italy and France. English is basically lingua franca, everyone knows at least a little bit of it just from its huge prevalence in media, and we start learning it in school pretty early too.
In the context of travelling, I suppose learning a few useful phrases is good enough.
But maybe I'm a little biased, since English is the only foreign language that I can speak fluently…
Right now I'm interested in Japanese. I started learning it ~3 years ago, but kinda gave up after learning hiragana, and now I've decided to try again. I don't like how slow it's going, though, thanks to my lack of motivation.
Salut, parlez-vous français? C'est ma langue préférée.
Oui, un peu. Comment allez-vous, mon ami?
I speak English, Irish, Italian, French and Gaelic. I'd like to learn Chinese or Japanese but the fact that I have to learn a new alphabet is really off-putting. I keep trying to pick them up every now and then but give up pretty soon afterwards…
How are Goidelic languages? They sound cool, but I don't want to get too into them if they have a hard structure.
Ngl they're fairly difficult, mainly just because there aren't many resources online for people living abroad.
There are definitely a few really weird grammar rules but imo they're not much more difficult than grammar quirks in other languages like French (which I really struggled with). The most difficult things to understand are the tuiseals imo but they're leftover from old Irish (which is pretty interesting if you ever want to read Bardic poetry in Irish) and it's not like you won't be understood if you don't have a good grasp of them. I think people mostly struggle with pronunciation like the broad and slender sounds and the lack of vowels the language has lol.
Ça va bien! Merci, bonne journée.
Is it hard remembering all of those languages? I'm only bilingual and my mind can be cluttered sometimes.
Which Gaelic do you know other than Irish? Manx or Scottish?
t. wants to learn Scottish Gaelic
I've been learning (Standard) Chinese for the past two years. Now I can have simple conversations with my grandfather. It feels good to be able to speak the "mother tongue" I never learned to speak when I was young. Since I was young I have taken Chinese classes, but I only learned how to write Chinese characters, not the language. My advice for people who want to learn Chinese: learn how to speak the language first, then study how to write Chinese characters. If you start with Chinese characters, you'll never learn the language.
I learned Chinese with the FSI Standard Chinese course (available on fsi-languages dot yojik dot eu). Basically you listen to tapes and repeat what is said. The instructor on the tape says the Chinese sentence, points out important words, gives some explanation, and lets you repeat the word/sentence for several times. Of course when you meet new words and sentences you'll stutter and bite your tongue, but with enough repetition and practice they will roll off your mouth smoothly.
It's probably best to start by reading the "Background Notes" section on the Module 1 text to get a general picture of the language. Then you start working from the Resource Module: Pronunciation and Romanization. Once you have gotten good enough at pronunciation, you can move on to the other tapes. The most important tapes are the C-1, P-1, and D-1. Comprehension, Production, and Drill. You probably don't want to listen to all three tapes in one sitting. So after working on C-1, you review what you just learned (try to read the sentences aloud from the textbook), then the next day you work on P-1. The C-2 and P-2 tapes aren't that important, I think. At first I tried listening to them too, but they were too much work - I ended up slacking off learning Chinese instead, which was counterproductive. Focus on C-1, P-1, D-1. Also, you might want to memorize the Target Lists sentences after working on the tapes, because those are the sentences you are expected to master (i.e., be able to automatically say without thinking).
Jiāyóu, nǐ yidìng huì zuò de dào!
You have to keep continuously watching media in the languages you've learned and thinking in them every now and then or having opportunities to practice them regularly, or else you'll just forget them. It's really sad when that happens because a lot of work goes into learning a language. There's something strange about the brain though where it's hard to speak at the start and then once something clicks it all comes out naturally for me. I'll often get mixed up between words in French/Italian or Irish/Gaelic sometimes though.>>2886
I know Scottish Gaelic and I'd really like to learn Manx. I heard a little of both on BBC channels years ago and I was surprised how much you can understand once you've a good grasp of one Celtic language. Kind of like how once you've learned one Latin one the rest are easy to understand!
Ok, nice. I have been debating on signing up for the Irish Gaelic duolingo because I wasn't sure if it was proper Irish Gaelic or a mix of the three dialects like their Spanish course is. But if they're all mutually intelligible, might as well take the plunge.
Duolinguo is fine for vocab but I noticed that the Irish sentences are totally off. I remember "Learning Irish" by Mícheál Ó Siadhail and "Buntús Cainte" being really good (both come with CDs for pronounciation), if you can get your hands on them.
There was an amazing series by Liam Breatnach from years ago that taught the really difficult stuff but I don't think it's possible to buy anymore. If I got my hands on them, I'd probably scan them for Irish learners.
Hm, glad I didn't start the course yet. I'll keep your suggestions in mind, I have some mulling to do now.
I recently changed my homepage from my country's news to a German newspaper's website. This has two benefits: one is that if I want to know what's happening, I have to make the effort to read it in German. The second benefit is that my mind doesn't automatically begin reading German like it does when confronted with English - even if I see the English headlines for one second I start reading them. This means that I only read the news when I want to, which is less and less these days.
That's a fresh take on an old strategy. I like it.
French sushi learning Japanese here. I have a bunch of techniques for learning languages but lately i have been working on a command line tool to do spaced repetitions. Just like Anki but in the CLI.
So far it works.
I plan on learning German someday since I already got the basics.
Just a driveby tip for german, I found this really neat german/english focused word lookup tool a while back, been really useful: https://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~fri/ding/
Oh thank you for this.
While we re at it: people learning English might benefit from the Writefull app, and for pretty much everything you can use Linguee.com (French, English, German… in a bidirectional way).
I am letting you discover both tools features.
My hobby is learning and making invented languages. I've been following the progress of Panunia, Globasa, and Lidepla for some time now. I'd also like to get in touch with the Volapük community before they all die of old age.
Toki Pona may be of some interest to the people here.
I've been learning French for the past 4 years but got serious this past couple months and now I'm actually at a level I'm satisfied with. I've been interested in languages for years but I'm a spaz so I know the basics in a ton of languages but not much in depth. Recently I've gotten back into Spanish, and with grammar and vocab from French I'm progressing really quickly. Would like to learn Russian next, since I've already learned the Cyrillic alphabet and am really interested in the culture/literature/films. Maybe I'll finally get past baby level knowledge of Japanese too; I know hiragana, katakana, some kanji, and basic vocab, but I don't watch enough anime right now to justify learning it sooner than Spanish or Russian.
In terms of learning methods, I'd recommend the LanguageTransfer app/website for beginners, though the language selection is a little limited. General immersion through tv/movies/youtube videos, starting with subs in your language, then eventually moving into subs in the target language, and then no subs, is good too. Once you're confident enough to speak, or close, go find people on Discord or VRChat to talk to. If you have a friend who speaks the language natively you should definitely take advantage, that's like a cheat code to fluency.
I've been learning Spanish for about a year and 4 months. I don't feel like I've made as much progress as I should have but I'm still chipping away at it. I'd like to eventually study abroad in Latin America (inb4) or Spain.
What would you like to study?
I'm 90% certain I'm going to do an accounting degree next year once I'm done with my pathway course I'm doing for uni.
Pro-drop marche aussi en Français je pense. Si jamais il y a une expression qui t'échappe dans une autre langue, perso, moi j'utilise Linguee. Le site permet de chercher des mots, des expressions et il sort des extraits, dans les livres, de ta recherche.
>dis-moi s'il te plaît si j'ai fait des erreurs
C'est bien écrit! >"Je sais pas comment dit-on l'idée en français,"
Je ne suis pas sur que "dit-on" marche ici. Perso, je dirais "on dit" ^^
Ouais, Linguee est très utile.
>"Je sais pas comment dit-on l'idée en français,"
Je crois aussi que j'ai fait une erreur là après le revoir mdr. Ma grammaire est évidemment pas parfaite mais ça suffit pour mes besoins je suppose. Je continuerai de practiquer o7
I guess the hardest part of a language differs for everyone.
For me symbols and syntax are easy to manipulate in my mind, so learning a whole new alphabet is very easy. The hard part is enunciation and pronunciation (tonal tongue twister: 我的妹妹的电话号码是一二二一三四百三四九十九五三四一二三四一百十二十。). I've been putting off french because all the different grammar rules and pronunciation challenges scare me.
老师 what should I do to master French and other pronuncy-languages? How to get good at language learning in general?
Il-y-a beaucoups de francophone ici.
Je parle un peu français, mas pas trop parce que j'ai faire solement un cour en France por un petit moins que 3 moins (mois?), donc mon vocabulaire n'est pas bonne et je oublies beacoup de mot.
Anotre probleme c'est qui le cour ete presc totaillemont orale, donc je ne sais pas comme escrit presc touts le mots, solemont comme pronouncers lui.
I am learning for fun, what about you?
I'm in an intense course, still really early, been trying to find people to practice with online.
See, I'm an amateur!