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 No.2058

Hello!

I've been meaning to do a language thread, but I thought it would be more interesting if it includes comfy-posting about different parts of the world.
Feel free to share the -best- resources to learn your language or others that you may be aware of!

I know its hard to not get political but please try to keep it civil, or at most do some friendly banter.

I'm from a country that used to belong to the Viceroyalty of the Río de la Plata, my main language is Español, and some tidbits of guaraní/portuguese.

However I'm interested in japanese[0] and russian, and of course, I would like to improve my english.


[0]- https://djtguide.neocities.org/

Have fun.

 No.2061

I don't know if this is what you had in mind, but I can really recommend visiting Croatia. I know people say this about everywhere you go (probably because it is true, for the most part) but the people there really were lovely. We stayed opposite a restaurant once and the waiters brought food to our apartment because there was no space indoors and it was pouring with rain.

I can't speak a word of any language other than English and it really bothers me when I go to foreign countries; it feels so impolite. I guess I should be trying to change that.

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>>2061
Woah, less than an hour for a reply, it's my lucky day, hehe.

Regarding your doubts: of course, everyone feel free to share their experiences.

I really recommend visiting Argentina, for most rolls out there it can be pretty cheap!
Also considering the country latitude you'll have lots of climates and regions to wander.

Personal advice: if you ever want to come here, ask in /int/ or r/argentina for advice.

Pic related might feel familiar for polite/viking rolls.

 No.2072

>>2061
Hah, Croatian sushi roll here! I certainly didn't expect my country to be mentioned on sushi of all places.
Hope you had a nice stay!
Our economy isn't doing too good, so we are quite tourism-oriented, though I personally don't really like how the place is basically becoming a vacation resort for foreigners while our own people leave to find work abroad :^( Oh well.

>I can't speak a word of any language other than English and it really bothers me when I go to foreign countries; it feels so impolite. I guess I should be trying to change that.

Hmm, I honestly don't think it's that big of a deal, so long as you're visiting European countries, maybe minus Italy and France. English is basically lingua franca, everyone knows at least a little bit of it just from its huge prevalence in media, and we start learning it in school pretty early too.
In the context of travelling, I suppose learning a few useful phrases is good enough.
But maybe I'm a little biased, since English is the only foreign language that I can speak fluently…

Right now I'm interested in Japanese. I started learning it ~3 years ago, but kinda gave up after learning hiragana, and now I've decided to try again. I don't like how slow it's going, though, thanks to my lack of motivation.

 No.2433

Salut, parlez-vous français? C'est ma langue préférée.

 No.2438

>>2433
Oui, un peu. Comment allez-vous, mon ami?

 No.2749

I speak English, Irish, Italian, French and Gaelic. I'd like to learn Chinese or Japanese but the fact that I have to learn a new alphabet is really off-putting. I keep trying to pick them up every now and then but give up pretty soon afterwards…

 No.2751

>>2749
How are Goidelic languages? They sound cool, but I don't want to get too into them if they have a hard structure.

 No.2752

>>2751
Ngl they're fairly difficult, mainly just because there aren't many resources online for people living abroad.

There are definitely a few really weird grammar rules but imo they're not much more difficult than grammar quirks in other languages like French (which I really struggled with). The most difficult things to understand are the tuiseals imo but they're leftover from old Irish (which is pretty interesting if you ever want to read Bardic poetry in Irish) and it's not like you won't be understood if you don't have a good grasp of them. I think people mostly struggle with pronunciation like the broad and slender sounds and the lack of vowels the language has lol.

 No.2866

>>2438
Ça va bien! Merci, bonne journée.

 No.2867

>>2749
Is it hard remembering all of those languages? I'm only bilingual and my mind can be cluttered sometimes.

 No.2886

>>2752
Which Gaelic do you know other than Irish? Manx or Scottish?
t. wants to learn Scottish Gaelic

 No.2898

I've been learning (Standard) Chinese for the past two years. Now I can have simple conversations with my grandfather. It feels good to be able to speak the "mother tongue" I never learned to speak when I was young. Since I was young I have taken Chinese classes, but I only learned how to write Chinese characters, not the language. My advice for people who want to learn Chinese: learn how to speak the language first, then study how to write Chinese characters. If you start with Chinese characters, you'll never learn the language.

I learned Chinese with the FSI Standard Chinese course (available on fsi-languages dot yojik dot eu). Basically you listen to tapes and repeat what is said. The instructor on the tape says the Chinese sentence, points out important words, gives some explanation, and lets you repeat the word/sentence for several times. Of course when you meet new words and sentences you'll stutter and bite your tongue, but with enough repetition and practice they will roll off your mouth smoothly.

It's probably best to start by reading the "Background Notes" section on the Module 1 text to get a general picture of the language. Then you start working from the Resource Module: Pronunciation and Romanization. Once you have gotten good enough at pronunciation, you can move on to the other tapes. The most important tapes are the C-1, P-1, and D-1. Comprehension, Production, and Drill. You probably don't want to listen to all three tapes in one sitting. So after working on C-1, you review what you just learned (try to read the sentences aloud from the textbook), then the next day you work on P-1. The C-2 and P-2 tapes aren't that important, I think. At first I tried listening to them too, but they were too much work - I ended up slacking off learning Chinese instead, which was counterproductive. Focus on C-1, P-1, D-1. Also, you might want to memorize the Target Lists sentences after working on the tapes, because those are the sentences you are expected to master (i.e., be able to automatically say without thinking).

Jiāyóu, nǐ yidìng huì zuò de dào!

 No.2899

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I speak French, English, and Moroccan dialectal Arabic fluently. My standard Arabic is a bit shaky, but I can generally get the gist of things and hold a conversation for some time. I can read Spanish but have trouble with oral conversations and absolutely can't speak.

I'm currently learning German. It's pretty fun! Different from everything else I've learned before, but I enjoy how consistent it is.

I've tried starting Japanese a couple of times and always gave up due to lack of motivation after a month or so. I might pick it up again one day, but not anytime soon.

In the future, I'd like to improve my standard Arabic and maybe start Russian (one of my favourite languages to the ear) once I've reached a decent level of fluency in German.

 No.2905

>>2867
You have to keep continuously watching media in the languages you've learned and thinking in them every now and then or having opportunities to practice them regularly, or else you'll just forget them. It's really sad when that happens because a lot of work goes into learning a language. There's something strange about the brain though where it's hard to speak at the start and then once something clicks it all comes out naturally for me. I'll often get mixed up between words in French/Italian or Irish/Gaelic sometimes though.

>>2886
I know Scottish Gaelic and I'd really like to learn Manx. I heard a little of both on BBC channels years ago and I was surprised how much you can understand once you've a good grasp of one Celtic language. Kind of like how once you've learned one Latin one the rest are easy to understand!

 No.2906

>>2905
Ok, nice. I have been debating on signing up for the Irish Gaelic duolingo because I wasn't sure if it was proper Irish Gaelic or a mix of the three dialects like their Spanish course is. But if they're all mutually intelligible, might as well take the plunge.

Thank you

 No.2914

>>2906
Duolinguo is fine for vocab but I noticed that the Irish sentences are totally off. I remember "Learning Irish" by Mícheál Ó Siadhail and "Buntús Cainte" being really good (both come with CDs for pronounciation), if you can get your hands on them.

There was an amazing series by Liam Breatnach from years ago that taught the really difficult stuff but I don't think it's possible to buy anymore. If I got my hands on them, I'd probably scan them for Irish learners.

 No.2916

>>2914
Hm, glad I didn't start the course yet. I'll keep your suggestions in mind, I have some mulling to do now.

 No.2954

I recently changed my homepage from my country's news to a German newspaper's website. This has two benefits: one is that if I want to know what's happening, I have to make the effort to read it in German. The second benefit is that my mind doesn't automatically begin reading German like it does when confronted with English - even if I see the English headlines for one second I start reading them. This means that I only read the news when I want to, which is less and less these days.

 No.2959

>>2954
That's a fresh take on an old strategy. I like it.

 No.4927

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My gf has made the first steps towards learning some Irish. I never thought the day would come when someone would ask me to explain IPA to them, but it has.

 No.5436

French sushi learning Japanese here. I have a bunch of techniques for learning languages but lately i have been working on a command line tool to do spaced repetitions. Just like Anki but in the CLI.

So far it works.

I plan on learning German someday since I already got the basics.

 No.5443

>>5436
>>2954
Just a driveby tip for german, I found this really neat german/english focused word lookup tool a while back, been really useful:
https://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~fri/ding/

 No.5444

>>5443
Oh thank you for this.

While we re at it: people learning English might benefit from the Writefull app, and for pretty much everything you can use Linguee.com (French, English, German… in a bidirectional way).

I am letting you discover both tools features.



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