I have to deal with a lot of customers that wants everything done yesterday, for free. I don't get much time to sit down and work with the problems they want me to solve either. So I don't think my job is that enjoyable. I do enjoy solving problems, but I think I should do so on my own terms, without having to work in retail. Recently I've had several customers just stand there complaining about how horrible the service was, that he'd never buy from us again because whatever problem they had wasn't solved by us the second they showed up. Some even demand that I solve whatever issue they have on the spot, while the 5 others in line behind them wait while I figure out what's wrong with their messed up windows installations. I wish these people could be more patient and understanding. Having to wait a few days, or even weeks for someone to find time for their problem is not a big deal. Then there are the obvious creeps and pedophiles that ask creepy questions about how the workshop handles replaced HDDs. They talk as if they're afraid someone will look through the data on the HDD.
Removing login passwords and fetching files out of bad drives is fun when the people I do it for appreciate my work, but sadly, a lot of people find no value in it, yet they demand I do it for them.
I am trying to find a new job, but I have a feeling I should have to be self employed if I want to enjoy my job. Don't know how to become self employed tho, or what I'd do.
Retail is almost always awful, but tech retail seems like a whole new low. Everyone knowing just what they want with no idea what that actually entails.
The only retail job I've ever enjoyed was selling pretty niche stuff, it's a wonderful thing to have customers that actually actually appreciate what you do.
IT support is awful cause normal people are retards
I did it for like a month as a summer job during highschool before I couldn't take it anymore.
This one guy in retail with low morals who always found ways to cheat and con people who didn't know anything left, right and center.
I could tell he was always really proud of this and would often look to me with a face like "watch this" as he was sweet talking his victim. (tbh sometimes i was impressed)
He just accepts whatever the customer says (because the customer is always right), makes stuff up as he goes along and overcharges them on things they don't really need.
Besides that he was a really smooth talker and really great at getting people to buy things. Around 75% of the people who encountered him would purchase something in the store.
Every once and a while he would say there is a problem with the credit/debit machine persuade them to give him their cards then he would quickly capture their number with thermal paper.
Later on he just installed his own credit/debit machine without the boss watching which just grabbed all their information anyways.
Yet customers would come back time and time again not realizing they have been cheated!
As rotten as it is, there is something impressive about real scoundrels.
I am a contracted delivery driver for Doordash, a company/app that delivers food from any restaurant in my area. I am paid $5 commission plus tip for each delivery, and end up making about $8-12 an hour. I like that I can choose my own hours to make as much or as little as I need, and spend most of the time in my car, with minimal human interaction.
I don't know if these customers are trying to scam me, or if they really are that stupid. Seen so much stuff that have been broken due to being mishandled by the user, but they insist they didn't do anything wrong. I can point at the spill mark, the broken off pieces, the crack in the screen, and they still deny any responsibility. But electronics stores employ a lot of scammers too, so I wonder if these stores deserves to have scammers as customers.
I'm glad I also get some very nice customers that will gladly pay the small sum i charge for recovering files from messed up drives, and even transfer licenses, software, and databases from old broken computers onto new ones. It is really nice to see the relief on someones face when I recover their project files from a HDD with a huge number of bad blocks (took several days with ddrescue).
For some reason, this job is both suffering and bliss. Just wish it was more of the latter.
How do you feel about the zero hours/"gig" method of working?
There is a similar service in the UK called Deliveroo, and there is a campaign to force them (and similar companies) to treat the delivery people as regular employees rather than people who just sign up for odd jobs. I can understand why, but it still seems silly to me to try and change it to be more like a regular job. I like the idea of being able to clock on and do work whenever I want to or need to.
i fucking hated my job as a dishwasher because it was little pay, my coworkers fucking sucked, i always got home at 1AM and my body smelled like literal shit. the mixture of sweat and a dozen of different foods made for an interesting fragrance.
thank lord i quit that son of a whore.
I'm in that same shit except I also have to cook. Fortunately I get to pawn off dishes to the noobies these days.
I work in a Chinese kitchen, and my job kinda sucks cause it's super exhausting and gross, plus the hours are overtime almost every week. I'm lucky to get one day off, and one day where I can go home before midnight.
On the bright side, I make more way money than most degree holders I know(although I still want to go to school and get out of food), and the people I work with are fun to be around.
i wouldnt mind working a hard job like that but i really had no one at work. everyone was a prick. maybe it was like that because it was a pretty, bourgeois type of restaurant. maybe if i was working with like minded people
A sushi restaurant sounds incredibly comfy. The only real maintenance would be like cleaning the rice cookers and prepping the fish. I especially like the tiny ones in Japan. Of course sushi restaurants in the US tend to double as busy hibachi joints unfortunately.
I got my hours cut in half at the Chinese restaurant by request. Back to sane normal 40 hour week with two days off. I might survive after all.
Glad to hear that roll.
I did the same thing, and from next week I should work 10 hours a day for 4 days a week.
Let's see how it goes.
That's the best schedule you can have and still get paid.
I don't like my job because the language barrier between my coworkers and I makes it really really difficult to cooperate with them. Most of them don't speak a word of English. I'm a waiter at a wedding venue, been there for 4 years but this month I'm going to start looking for a new job.
I like working Greek weddings though because I am Greek so being around the music and the people and the food makes me happy.
i quit my currynigra job working on the hotline for UPS, i'm glad but i don't know if it was the right decision perhaps i should have gone on another month. but what's done is done
Chinaroll here. Hate when you're supposed to have a 3 day weekend playing Zelda and riding bikes, only to get called in one night cause some stupid idiot got fired.
I put gutted fish on a rack and pretend I'm loading a tank
Welp, this Friday will be my last day. I got put back to working 70 hours a week and I just can’t take it anymore. I was having to take hour long smoke breaks just to deal with the stress. I have little put back until I find something else. Thinking about applying at a bubble tea place. My friend works there and loves it(she used to work at the Chinese place with me). The pay isn’t very good, but I’d rather that than deal with cooking anymore. The only issue is this place has kind of a favoritism over Asian employees(I’m white), especially young Asian girls. Oh well, worth a shot anyways. But I think I’ll take some time off and be a neet again. I don’t really need any money until school starts again in January. Bike trips, video games, and practicing music should do it for now : )
That sounds pretty bad ass, sushi roll!
>bubble tea place with lots of young Asian girls
that sounds so dope
roll I think I just died or something, hope you get the job
Well I went and got my last check from the job I quit. It was really good cause all the hours I put in, and they already want me back. I almost want to for the money, but they would have to negotiate with me on how much I want to work.
what entry-level work would you rolls suggest for a long-time NEET with terrible physical ability and SAD
SAD as in anxiety?
I used to work on a small shop where i had to attend customers along other things and it helped with it but only when talking to strangers i probably will never meet again.
Oops, didn't mean to post.
Anyway, i suggest you to do something similar; work somewhere you can multi-task and involves social interactions too but not always. Small business are great for that because they don't have money to hire someone for each specific need they have.
Unfortunately this is not something you find as easily as the other entry-level professions.
Gas station attendant. Third shift is best, you're alone, but most places want you to train for a couple months on days before bumping you up.
I actually liked that job.
What I do for money can hardly be considered a job, but I do art commissions (and on the off chance, concept work for companies).
Most of it is pornographic in nature, but a lot of the work I get is within "self-insert community". A group of people who are infatuated with fictional characters, and like seeing drawings of themselves or their "self-inserts" interacting with said characters.
I do enjoy this, as artwork is my most practiced and perfected skill as of right now. I love any form of storytelling through media, and any job within that generally wide range would suit me well.
However, this doesn't make me a livable wage, as my brain and body are relatively sick with what doctors have only guessed are depression, anxiety, bipolar disorder, and a physical fatigue from all of those combined. Its hard for me to work for long periods of time, or even want to communicate with customers interested in my work.
I am newly medicated, have been working out for almost half a year now, and have high hopes that once I find the right balance of medication and self care, a proper minimum wage job is in order. I can continue to pursue art for myself, hopefully creating works that others appreciate as well, without having to rely on the daunting task of being my own boss.
I recently got this job delivering cell phones to people's homes. It's not half bad actually, it's kinda laid back sometimes, and in general it's not too taxing. Sometimes I get sent to distant parts of the city though, a big city at that, and I end up too tired even though I'm most of the time just using public transport.
It's fine though, I just do it and I study while I'm waiting for whatever, and then I get paid at the end of the week. This is what NEETs won't tell you: you get actual money from working, which is not all that awful. I keep buying dumb shit though, so it doesn't last me. Tomorrow I'm getting paid and I'm immediately spending it in a tarot deck.
Can't complain though, I have little else to do and I get to do what I enjoy, that is learning stuff.
Sure. I work as a security guard and find the job is very stress free. I was able to set my own hours and get 40 a week. I've also got plenty of time there to play around on my laptop and watch movies/anime or whatever. Pay is 'okay' too for what it is.
I work for peanuts on a website. But I don't have to go out in public which is nice.
I work at a meat factory in the packing section.
Most days are 8-9 hours of putting the same few meat types in boxes and trays. I need the money to move out and we're now at month one with me still quite sane.
My colleagues are mostly Italian, Turkish, and Moroccan workers that don't speak the language. This is mostly alright though, as I'm too nervous to speak a lot anyway and they don't mind me being by myself.
There was this one time where a coworker from another shift thought I was a girl when he saw me in the changing room. Unbeknownst to him, that made my week, since I'm a transgirl.
Another good thing about this job is that the sight and smell of meat outside work almost makes me gag, which is great for not putting on weight.
Hey sushi, what deck did you get? Do we have a tarot/spirituality thread? I'd be very interested in that.
I work in the video game industry, but not in programming or artwork, in less interesting peripheral stuff. It's very poorly paid. I could work in one of those more interesting fields with enough upskilling, but I'm not there yet. But I was out of serious work for a few years (just part-time/freelance) and I'm trying to get back into the right headspace (and save up some money/pay off some debts). It's going OK.
My coworkers are really nice though, we have a good laugh during the day.
>>3277>I work at a meat factory in the packing section.
Well, I thought I was the only one on sushichan who had such a crappy job
What is your job, if I may ask?
Every day my older colleagues get worried about why a 19 year old boy is working in a meat factory instead of studying, it's quite tiresome.
Exactly what you've described, meat packing. I hate my current job with a burning passion, mainly since we're working about 11h per day (sometimes even 13h) and most folks whom I work with are rude buttholes. I'm hoping to escape from this hellish job asap. >Every day my older colleagues get worried about why a 19 year old boy is working in a meat factory instead of studying, it's quite tiresome.
I used to get weird looks quite a lot on my older job when I was 16 but people have stopped questioning me about it I assume because I look a tad older now (I'm 21 currently).
Man, it always seems that people who try to draw for a living are going through some real shit. Keep doing what you do, you guys make the world a more beautiful place.
Same for music. It's something you gotta have a passion for and likely wont get rich off of.
Did for a while, but I burned myself out on it. I work at at diner, and the management is terrible. The job itself is ok, the people I work with are nice. The pay is… well, diner pay. I'm quitting next week because I'll be out of town for a month and I need to look for a new job anyway. I've got enough money in the bank to last me for a while without dipping into my emergency fund, so I should be fine.
Good luck sushi roll!
Pls let us know about your next job
When I had jobs in the past I always hated them so I decided to stop doing jobs and start living my life. So far so good
How do you afford to live said life without income?
I won't start looking for one until July, but I'll throw in an update if the thread is still active by the time I do.
It's a struggle for sure, I live frugally and have minimal things, some days I have to busk for money to eat. But I'm much happier now than I was when I was working every day. Guess it's just the way my brain works.
Ok, so big update time! Haven't been on sushi in a while, but you good folks might like to hear how my life has changed since leaving the diner job.
In July, I picked up a job at McDonald's. It was the worst job I had ever taken. I was getting more hours than I could handle, and I was working the twilight shift. The mental stress and lack of sleep I went through there got to the point that my doctor had to intervene, as it was causing my existing health issues to worsen.
Two weeks in, I put in my two weeks notice of departure. So I worked for one month total there. After I left, I asked a friend of mine about work. He's a private renovation contractor, and he said he could hire me on as a subcontractor. So now I work in construction/renovation!
My contractor is a good guy, he treats his team well. My pay is better, I work in the mornings, and my mind is at rest. My health is slowly returning to normal and I'm genuinely at peace.
And I never had to use any of my emergency fund! Truly a blessing in life. I love my job so much. Thanks for caring sushis!
I get asked the same thing every time too. I work as an electrical apprentice and all my coworkers are way older than me like 10+ years. I'm 20 years old but still look like a god dang 17 year old
I'm a webdev and my job consists of maintaining an old website with a fairly large audience. Most of the time I add or remove advertising and I fix bugs. It's not interesting at all from a tech point of view but at least the coworkers are nice, it's close to home and I work only 30 to 35 hours a week.
That sucks :(
I hope they'll stop asking after a while of you working there, sushi.
I'm working on off-desk tech support and it's pretty decent. While it's essentially just a stepping stone job with pretty middling pay and I'm planning on bailing when next year rolls around, the coworkers and bosses are a really nice bunch, the bad parts aren't all that bad and the good parts are just exceedingly nice. Sure beats doing helldesk for the same pay by a country mile and then some.
I kinda like it. We basically organize events to make businesses in the nautical sector and ship captains meet and make deals or create networks etc. I get to learn some interesting stuff and to work near the port, which atmosphere I love, especially in the winter. When deadlines approach it can be quite tiring and frustrating at times though.
I'm gonna try getting a job. Wish me luck!
Good luck, sushi!!!
I believe in you
Just finished a CS degree and now the thought of working in IT absolutely depresses me. I barely scraped through the course (it was a really shitty, condensed course and I failed many modules, had to repeat exams, all of my lecturers couldn't stand me), I came out feeling like I knew nothing while my classmates were borderline geniuses and I can't imagine being told off on a daily basis for making stupid mistakes that cost a big company millions (I've watched by bf get slaughtered at his job and he knows much more than me…). I've considered applying for a nice, quiet retail job until I figure it all out but I know for a fact that I'd get too comfortable and I'd end up stuck there for years instead. Also I'm not good with people which is a requirement for both jobs lol. To top it all off, my parents aren't helping. They're the typical overbearing parents who forced me to do the CS course in the fist place because they want their kids to have prestigious jobs that they can brag about to their co-workers. If they thought I was considering a job in retail over something like cyber security, they'd go insane. Every day that goes by where I'm not going to an interview, they're accusing me of being a slob basically. I've never felt this depressed in years. I used to have weekly breakdowns in the bathrooms in college and I can see it effecting my health because I'm always visiting the doctor.
>tl;dr I can't see myself working in IT despite wasting time on a CS degree.
What should I do, sushis? I need help…
I have some questions for you.
1. Do you have a GitHub account?
2. Do you have many personal programming projects?
3. Do you have a website?
4. Do you have any tech-related certifications (A+, Sec+, Net+, CCNA, OSCP, CEH, etc)?
5. Did you do an internship before you graduated?
6. Have you been to any hackathons?
7. Have you gone to career fairs?
8. Do you use Twitter and LinkedIn?
9. Do you have any relevant job experience in IT or CS (like IT help desk stuff)?
10. What's your resume like?
I'm asking because a degree by itself means pretty much nothing.>Also I'm not good with people which is a requirement for both jobs lol
Have you joined any extracurricular organizations related to CS or IT, or have you joined a group like Toastmasters?
The benefit of college is the opportunities to network with people, not just the classes.
1. I do. I have two team projects and one project that I completed myself for class. I should probably try to add more.
2. I've tried making a website but it's only basic HTML/CSS. Throughout the year I also tried making little projects in Java like calculators or quizzes but I never put them on my github because I was embarrassed of how basic they are. If anyone has suggestions for really easy things I could build, I'd be really grateful. I generally just follow tutorials word for word…
3. I put the one above on neocities, it's not very impressive and I don't think I'd be confident enough to show it off. I wanted to add a blog but I can't figure out a way to do it on neocities. I've managed to make similar before using PHP, I could post something like that to my github but I think it would look better on my website.
4. I haven't even heard of any of those certs. I took an Oracle Java exam but failed.
5. Unfortunately, my course was only a year long so an internship wasn't available to us because we never had a break.
6. I really don't think I'd be able for something at that level yet. I went to a small one at my college. It was fun but the rest of my team was doing all the work because I didn't understand it, I felt too embarrassed to go again.
7. I've been to two. The first was CS related and the second was more general. I got speaking to a lot of people but they kept stopping me mid sentence to say that they're only looking for people applying for managerial roles. I thought it was really strange because it was next to my college and we were advised to go but no companies were looking for recent graduates/interns.
8. I have LinkedIn, just applied for a job last night through it. It's up to date. I don't have a Twitter.
9. My only job experience is in childcare. I did a two week work experience when I was 16 but it wasn't long enough to have actually learned anything.
10. Thankfully, my college reviewed my CV before I left and gave me some advice on things to change so it's up to date. It's mostly education and one previous job. I listed all the modules I took and what I learned.
I haven't joined anything like that again because I didn't feel confident enough in my coding skills. I actually haven't heard of Toastmasters which is strange because there is actually one in my area, I'll go down this week and check it out. I really appreciate you taking the time to help me out sushi roll.
Most of the time I enjoy my job, I work in R&D for a smallish engineering company.
It's pretty cool, you get a lot of freedom and most people don't really know what you do, but for some reason they think we're all superhuman engineering machines.
It's nice that people respect us, senior management actually listen if we make suggestions, but it does mean any problem nobody else can solve ends up on my desk or the one's either side.
Sometimes it's nice, makes the job more interesting. But then other times you get someone running in screaming about a colossal fuckup that's been brewing quietly for months and is about to destroy the company, expecting me to fix everything, and I'm just sitting there thinking about how this morning I poured hot coffee on my balls because I can't even hold a mug and a phone at the same time.
tl;dr it's pretty good. But every now and then the pressure gets crazy.
>>4312>Throughout the year I also tried making little projects in Java like calculators or quizzes but I never put them on my github because I was embarrassed of how basic they are.
There's nothing wrong with putting projects like that on github, though I personally only put personal projects there that aren't for a class. If you made those in your spare time, not for an assignment, I'd say put it on GitHub. Small projects are better than an empty profile (just as long as they're not super buggy or anything).
> I put the one above on neocities,
Get your own domain name and shared hosting. It's cheap, but it looks way better than some other hosting service without your own domain.>it's not very impressive
Undergrad projects don't have to be the most amazing things ever. I put my website and email address with my own custom domain name on my business card and resume. It looks much better than people who don't have a website or don't have their own mail server (it's easy if you use a shared host that takes care of email server stuff for you, and then you just log into cPanel and use Horde or RoundCube or something). >I wanted to add a blog but I can't figure out a way to do it on neocities
You can use something like Jekyll-Bootstrap or Wordpress if you don't want to make something from scratch. Or just manually edit HTML for every entry, as inefficient as it might be.>using PHP
Be careful about security if you do it from scratch
Basically, it sounds like you're doing a lot of good projects but you're putting yourself down because you have unrealistic expectations about what they're supposed to be like. A basic website is better than no website at all. Basic open source projects are better than none or just a couple.>I really don't think I'd be able for something at that level yet
Go to more beginner-friendly ones. I know some people who went to multiple hackathons as a complete beginner. They went there to learn and network as opposed to making something cool. I have personally gone to only one hackathon so far, but I met someone and we made a very simple video game from scratch together. It was really fun even though I'm not the best programmer. >I got speaking to a lot of people but they kept stopping me mid sentence to say that they're only looking for people applying for managerial roles
That's weird, I went to a couple career fairs and found a lot of people looking for developers. But not all career fairs are the same. Maybe look into tech-centric ones? My university has one that is only for engineering majors, so it's nothing but STEM recruiters.
I recommend using Twitter. Follow people who have similar career aspirations, and look for people who have a >1:1 ratio of following:followers. They are likely to follow you back. Then try to network with people. If you're not sure who to follow, just look at a big account that is about tech or CS or something, then look at the followers and follow some of the people there who are into development or CS (and also follow lots of people). What I mean by that is that if someone is following 800 people and they have 600 followers, if you follow them, they are likely to follow you back. If someone is following 50 people and they have 50K followers, they're not going to follow you back.
Once you get your follower count up a bit, and have established yourself as an aspiring developer, posting some of what you're doing, recruiters might follow you, or people might DM you if you're nearby and then you can meet people or work on projects together (even if it's online-only in some cases). Twitter has been very helpful for me.
On your website, link to all your social media and also GitHub. Your website should basically be a web-based online portfolio that is like an extension of your resume. Twitter and LinkedIn are very useful for tech.
Try doing freelancing or something or even irrelevant job experience to build up more experience you can put on a resume. Any experience is better than no experience. If you are having a hard time finding a job, apply for internships or volunteer positions. I've done volunteer computer repair at a shelter for poor people who were at risk for becoming homeless. There are plenty of opportunities out there, even if you have to look a while to find something.>I haven't joined anything like that again because I didn't feel confident enough in my coding skills
There are some people who join groups like that as complete beginners who are looking to learn more. Don't put yourself down. It's okay to not be a pro at everything. Nobody really is. But networking is super important.
I work as a teller, it's a mind numbing job and my boss wants us to push products onto customers and if we don't, we get harassed about it. Every interaction we have to treat as though we're handling a bomb and it's a surprisingly stressful job for such low pay that the only reason I do it is because it's right next to my home.
I should really find a new job but I have had 0 luck so far and I don't particularly know what I should be looking for but I know customer service is going to be the end of me at this rate, even though it's all I've done. It's all about meeting nonexistent quotas and expectations that are unachievable by even the most efficient people here. I need to get out.
I'm an apprentice glazier. It's pretty interesting and the days usually go by fast, but there's a lot of pressure and the management is all extremely high strung. All the fellows I work with are nice, at least. Overall it's much better than any other entry-level job I've had, and I make 15/hr.
Holy shit are you me?
That depends, do you spend your free time jerking off and playing video games because you can't muster the motivation to watch anime anymore?
I guess you're not me, then. I haven't played video games since I executed my television with a machete.
Service agent for enterprise (car rental company)- I have a love hate relationship with it. One hand, it pays good (12USD/hr) and I like driving the cars around and meeting people. But, cleaning them is not that ideal.Our bay is cold; and cars get pretty messy, like minivans are pretty dope (if you ever have a chance to rent a dodge caravan and take it on the highway, do it!) but after vacuuming them and washing them (power washer, brush, and squeegie) on average that takes 40 minutes. Would I do a different job? yeah. Do I want to? not really
Software jobs are so easy and they pay you so much. I'm glad I followed my heart.
A session of the Original Star Wars Battlefront II was not going well. I get a lot more done nowadays and manage my time more wisely.
What kind of software job do you have? I keep hearing wildly different stories, where some jobs work you to the bone and make you do unpaid overtime structurally, and other jobs pay you easy money to automate your own job from home.
When I say easy, I mean that I don't have to do blue-collar work. Most of my time is spent with politics or doing typing on a computer.
Well, I suppose that is one upside. I should probably do the same to be honest, though I might try selling my games instead of destroying them.
I work at customer service for a mobile company in the US. I live outside of the US but ofc it's cheaper to pay 3rd world countries for workforce, isn't it?
Do I enjoy it? actually, I do. It's just what you'd expect: talking to angry customers all day. It can be hell, actually. Today I got a really rude and frustrated guy on the phone. But I managed to keep calm and even though he was really rude throughout the call and kept telling me I wasn't helping him, though I WAS, in the end he cooled down. Not always does this happen, and since I'm not american and speaking with americanese, I get a lot of racist jackasses.
But in the end I enjoy it, and I also enjoy the fact that it thoughens me in some aspects, givese me some endurance, and also the fact that I'm outlasting a bunch of other people who keep dropping out.
It gives me the money to keep studying chinese, to take my pretty lady out for dinner every now and then, and generally, to chill. Even though sometimes the shift can be really heavy, but I also have drugs so in the end, I can't really complain.
hbu sushi, do you enjoy your job?
I work as a custodian at the University I attend, easy money cause I barely do shit and just listen to podcasts the entire time.