[ kaitensushi ] [ lounge / arcade / kawaii / kitchen / tunes / culture / silicon ] [ otaku ] [ yakuza ] [ hell ] [ ? / chat ] [ lewd / uboa ] [ x ]

/lounge/ - sushi social

don't forget to smile :]
Name
Email
Subject
Comment
File
Embed
Password (For file deletion.)

• Files Supported: webm, swf, flv, mkv, mp4, torrent, 7z, zip, pdf, epub, & mobi.
• Embeds Supported: youtube, vimeo, dailymotion, metacafe, & vocaroo.
• Max. post size is 10MB / 4 files.

Remember to keep it cozy!

The server move is finished. Please report any bugs on /yakuza/ or the Discord, or email seisatsu@sushigirl.us.

File: 1616693514168.jpg (146.71 KB, 1080x1331, ThisVictorianHouseInOhio.jpg)

 No.10778

Hey, I need some advice. I can't do anything I want to do (even simple things) because I am very uncomfortable. I'm not sure how to explain it. It's just a permanent feeling of physical discomfort. Even staying in bed is painful.
What do?

 No.10779

>>10778
Where is the discomfort coming from? Muscles, abdomen, overall energy/mood, etc?
If it is a muscular/joint sort of discomfort I can recommend stretching. Don't overdo it any one time, but make sure to do at least something every day. After a while it becomes much more comfortable to sit or lie in any position.

 No.10781

Its probably a mix of anxiety and depression friend. I know exactly what youre talking about. I can't offer you a solution because I feel this way often myself. My best suggestion is just keep pushing as hard as you can to be productive. You need to condition yourself to be able to work even when you feel this way.

Best of luck.

 No.10782

File: 1616712815639.gif (1.96 MB, 200x109, 1606956531795.gif)

>>10778
without knowing your physical condition, you might be depressed. sometimes exercise out in the sunshine helps me feel better. beyond that, I would say see a doctor. cheers.

 No.12863

File: 1636662423339.jpg (96.94 KB, 850x1092, 238mtg.jpg)

Just do it - Nike, Roman Goddess of Victory

 No.12865

File: 1636684072566-0.jpg (80.34 KB, 1065x1065, 155324067_447743026676748_….jpg)

File: 1636684072566-1.png (76.82 KB, 850x497, executive-function-diagram….png)

File: 1636684072566-2.jpg (98.08 KB, 749x1061, alex.jpg)

I'm going through something very close and I think you have executive function disorder and underlying depression/anxiety expressed, or in this case masked, by alexithymia. The executive function disorder is obvious as being unable to perform tasks which one see's as easy due to an unknown mental block or bad planning is a key stone trait. An underlying case of depression or task anxiety also creates/worsens executive problems.
My main interest is your feeling of inexplainable uncomfortableness before a task and generally being uncomfortable existing as a sign of alexithymia. Alexithymia is a trait were people feel the reactions emotions bring, but they can't interpret them which often leads to them confusing emotional sensations for physical ones. The best example I can think of off the top of my head is from the book emotionally dumb; Paul is driving to a party with his gf. His heart is racing, but he can't tell what it means. Is it because he's anxious to be with his girlfriend? Is he mad he was cut off? Is it because he forgot his heart medication? This ties into you because your uncomfortableness sounds like an alexithymic interpretation of a negative emotion. Instead of having easily identifiable emotions and their causes, I don't feel good because I'm bad at X, you have vague problems and even vaguer emotions you confuse for physical discomfort, when I can't do something I feel tingly. You're obviously not happy right now, so your general depressive mood could be interpreted as your always running discomfort. Most people don't feel good before starting a task, especially people with executive problems, so your discomfort before tasks is an alexymic reaction to emotions.
What I recommend is you buy, preferably pirate, a book on skills to combat ADHD and/or executive function. Along side that you should read a CBT/DBT therapy book on anxiety and/or depression, which ever one you relate to most. Alexithymia is the more niche condition, so it has no books. The best you can do is make an emotion diary were you try to connect your body sensations to an emotion based on the context they appeared, My face feels red + I was just insulted = Angry? Embarrassed?. An emotional wheel could help.
If this doesn't work move to therapy, if you're to poor try online of sliding scale, and if that still doesn't work do drugs, most likely start with ADHD drugs as those are the cheapest.

My experience is that before a tasks I would get a vague emotion, My chests gets thick and for some reason I want to cry, and in general my emotions confused me. I only got over this by training executive function skills and trying to connect feelings to emotional states. The last thing I'll leave is a quick little anti-procrasiantion tool that helped me a lot!
>https://eileenpease.com/purrrr-your-way-to-productivity/

 No.12870

I think I feel something similar, like a permanent sense of disquietude and anxiety that makes doing anything, or nothing at all, seem awkward and unnatural.

 No.14437

File: 1665652340197.jpg (561.03 KB, 1046x1870, aw (1).jpg)

>>10778
Follow this guide

 No.14438

>>14437
there's some solid advice here, but it seems very objectivist and heavy-handed
not to mention it's a great way to teach someone to beat themselves up and hate themselves

 No.14483

>>14438
>not to mention it's a great way to teach someone to beat themselves up and hate themselves
To me, this sounds like
>You shouldn't follow this routine because it's too strict, and so, after understandably making mistakes, you'll hate yourself
I am going to attack what is potentially a mere strawman of your comment and say that striving for good habits, and not being able to forgive yourself for making mistakes, are two separate matters. If you cannot forgive yourself, learn how to.

>“Dude, suckin’ at something is the first step to being sorta good at something.”

– Jake

 No.14485

>>14483
>striving for good habits, and not being able to forgive yourself for making mistakes, are two separate matters.
They are but they are undeniably exstrinsically linked. sushi roll was right to mention it because simply establishing these rules for living that will supposedly improve your life without giving any kind of guide for bringing this about in a way that eases you into this whole thing instead of going full head on into it is absolutely setting up people who want to emulate that into believing that:
A. It's an all or nothing thing, which it isn't
B. Making mistakes is sacrificing your quality of life, not entirely true
C. This is the only way of making living happier/easier, which it isn't

Before you say that it doesn't mean these things, this guide is meant for tired people who want something new. These people have probably tried other things already to limited or no success. They very well may already be beating themselves up for failures prior. Presenting these rules (which are also notably called the "science lifestyle") without any guide is absolutely playing into these things. I don't think it's intentional but it is still potentially harmful. While I disagree that it would likely "teach someone to beat themselves up", I think it would definitely exacerbate any desire someone has to do so.
>If you cannot forgive yourself, learn how to.
And just like how the lifestyle this guide promotes, this isn't knowledge intrinsic to the human experience. People need to know how to forgive their mistakes in order to make things like this work. Just presenting rules for life without anything outlining that setbacks are normal and ok, that it's all about really finding out what works for you and maximizes your actual long-term comfort, and without any suggestion for how to achieve these goals realistically is setting people up for failure.

 No.14491

>>14485
well-said sushi, tyvm

reminds me of a ccp grey video about new years resolutions, where the point of the video was to encourage building your ambitions for self-care by themes rather than clear objectives

for an example, setting your short-term life goal to just "take better care of the house and clean it more often" rather than "always do a thorough clean every week"
humans are unpredictable, and for every logical decision there's going to be unpredictable variables that go into that logic, factors that seem too miniscule to measure or too vague but all add up to greatly influence the path you take in life - you never really know what might cause you to give up or change your mind, even if the future you is wrong

having a general subjective theme to your lifestyle rather than a set objective greatly reduces the risk of you giving up along the way to combat that

 No.14492

>>14491
not everyone has the luxury of good mental health, especially on the internet
yes it's not really true that the guide itself is a threat to the self-worth of someone following it, it could very well hurt someone who's already in a vulnerable state of mind
and if you need a guide like that in the first place, it's probably very likely this is going to be an issue for you

 No.14496

>>14491
But for goals to be effective they need to be specific!? Actually, I like the notion of "scientific lifestyle" but not like guide posted, just make "goals" or "interventions" and then measure how they actually effect life and then based on results keep that intervention, or try something else.
Relatedly:
https://mindingourway.com/guilt/
guuu I wanna read this series again it was nice.

 No.14497

>>14496
>But for goals to be effective they need to be specific!?

.. no? only if you want truly objective results, and in my opinion that would go against the highly subjective nature of the journey life takes you down and is too risky to commit yourself to

 No.14503

>>14485
>because simply establishing these rules for living that will supposedly improve your life without giving any kind of guide for bringing this about in a way that eases you into this whole thing
I don't think it's necessary to make it clear to the reader that one should ease their way into it - because I think it's implicit that you're supposed to do this.
To me, it's because of the word-choice.
"Lifestyle"
Also, there's the "General advice" section at the bottom.
And what about the fact that there aren't really any set-times for each instruction? That the times are loosely described, relative to a general person's work-schedule?
You're meant to take inspiration from it, and include as many practises from it, as you desire. You're meant to see it as an example to borrow from, an ideal to be inspired by, rather than a set of instructions to perfectly copy.

>Just presenting rules for life without anything outlining that setbacks are normal and ok

The theoretical person who's feelings you're considering here, is a person who is literally so isolated from the self-help genre, that this picture, is all they have ever seen of it, which I don't think is normal. I think there's plenty of self-help books which would mention or cover the topic of self-forgiveness (although I have yet to see so for myself as I don't avidly consume such material). If they haven't read a self-help book, they've probably consumed self-help YouTube videos, made by people who did read those books.
So yeah, I think the guide is fine for what it is. A guide, not a routine to be perfectly emulated, and I don't think there's anything in it that implies it is to be perfectly emulated either.

Also:
>C. This is the only way of making living happier/easier, which it isn't
In the case of the SCIENCE lifestyle, I think this doesn't apply.
Does good sleep make you feel better than bad sleep?
Does breathing clean air make you feel better than breathing dusty air?
You are a human being, that exists in reality. You are designed to function in a certain way, and when you comply with the fulfilment of those natural needs, you feel better. You've greased the wheels of your own machinery, so to speak.
There's sleep hygiene stuff regarding one's circadian rhythm.
There's stuff about exercise.
There's dietary advice.
I guess it's true that this isn't the only way, but I think addressing the trifecta of sleep, diet, and exercise, is a massive thing that shouldn't be underestimated, and relegated to a mere choice amongst many.

 No.14573

>>10778
Just do it.

 No.14607

>>10778
You could try tweaking your brain's default mode network to something less painful.



[Return][Go to top] [Catalog] [Post a Reply]
Delete Post [ ]
[ kaitensushi ] [ lounge / arcade / kawaii / kitchen / tunes / culture / silicon ] [ otaku ] [ yakuza ] [ hell ] [ ? / chat ] [ lewd / uboa ] [ x ]