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Stop being so negative.
We live in the greatest age known to man.


Only if you're wealthy.

The greatest era to live in was the boomer's generation. So much money.


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I love this world.


But I have to be negative, so I can find a negative gf and have kids with her, then we'll have positive kids because we multiplied.


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Senpais, it is almost a new year.


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we live in a society, friendly lady


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We live in an age where a sizeable sum of human knowledge is available to the public, in mere seconds, 24/7 for free.

That's pretty amazing.


yeah but instead of learning about useful things, people read about pronouns, the earth being flat, fortnite dances, and memes


To be fair a lot of the important shit is behind paywalls and/or lots of red tape. Wikipedia and CliffNotes just isn't enough and torrenting is not an option for a surprising amount of people.

It reminds me of how people in America are overweight and suffering from malnutrition and dehydration.


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I second OP's opinion because I suffer from a terrible disease and I might be part of the last generation to carry it. Medical technology is growing faster than ever, and more countries than ever are rich enough to enter the medical field. A cure is just around the corner, I just know it.


I've been watching videos about anarchy and since I've like causes that bring the power to the masses rather than the elites I want to now read about anarchist ideas. I might have to tell my mom that I'm becoming an anarchist, mostly for laughs.

"Hey mom, I'm an anarchist, I got a cute anarchist gf and we are going to protest private institutions and the government. Also, she's pregnant so you're going to have anarchist grandbabies. Hooray!!"


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Doesn't seem to me like Anarchy brings power to the masses. Maybe I misunderstand it, but I would think Anarchy empowers the people who can afford expensive security and military. Like capitalism, except you can't actually sue big corporations for ruining your life.

Funny concept though, I'm sure your mother would be thrilled.


Rule of law is the only system that has ever given the weak any semblance of security from the strong.


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There's a BIG difference between left and right wing anarchism. "We are going to protest private institutions" makes me think that >>4695 was probably talking about the left version. This is a good introduction if you're interested: https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/the-anarchist-faq-editorial-collective-an-anarchist-faq


Maybe "power" is the wrong word, since in more leftist circles (and yea, >>4706, I'm referring to left wing anarchism thanks for the resource it's really cool) power refers to the ability to limit and give options to others. So a good example would be the difference between Apple's ecosystem vs Linux and Android, Apple has the power to cut out ports on it's laptops, prevent DIY upgrades on it's desktops and build it's phones and tablets to require special headphones and repair techs to replace the battery. Compared to Linux and Android which can be used to revive old devices and a lot of older computers can still be upgraded/repaired by the user.

It's very safe to say that tech, as just one example, would be extremely different if all of the big players were anarchist co-operatives rather than capitalist companies. The latter has a lot of power over average person.

Sorry if I come off as rambling, I'm just learning about all of this too.

I respectfully disagree. The law isn't a concern for abusive people and entities. The laws are too often made by the powerful in the first place and often ignored by them too.


>Growing political instability
>Booming population with no end in sight
>Elite using this world as their playground
>Robots will soon eliminate the need for a large majority of workers
>Rising apathy and ignorance
This is the ugliest age of man. At least the past didn't try to mask the ugliness with 'civilisation', life was brutal and everyone knew it.


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>At least the past didn't try to mask the ugliness with 'civilisation'
>be roman
>ceaser and pompeii are brewing a civil war
>ceaser is off civilising the unwashed barbarian gauls
>too many people in rome causing food shortages
>senate and their rich friends running around making armies and doing whatever they want
>slaves are replacing all the farm workers and other low end trades
>Publius keeps drawing my mother sucking cocks on the wall outside
>I hate Publius


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>Publius keeps drawing my mother sucking cocks on the wall outside
>I hate Publius
Oh my god, I wish I could watch the everyday life of ancient Roman people, I wander if people actually shitposted on the walls.


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They totally did. Romans shitposted about the same shit we did. The graffiti has been preserved in places like pompeii too.
>“Lucilla ex corpore lucrum faciebat” — “Lucilla made money from her body.”
>In the Domus Tiberiana in Rome, there survives a crudely-drawn man with an oversized penis for a nose.
>“Marcellus loves Praenestina, but she doesn’t care for him.”

The HBO rome series is absolutely amazing and you should watch it. At one point Ceasers wife is travelling through Rome on a litter and it turns out that overnight they've painted pictures of his mistress blowing him all over the city, then he has to break up with her because his wife is pissed.


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the greatest age known to man *so far*! shit's gonna get even better, baby!


Gonna be worse, with climate change, resource wars, and cultural decay.


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I have mixed feelings about that, technology and health care is cool and all that but we are becoming more and more controlled.


Every age has good and bad, the problem we have now is that the good in the world is really good and the bad is really bad. Medical technology is amazing, but nuclear warfare is terrifying. So you have to take the good with the bad, the only other option is suicide. Unless you're a time traveler, in which case, you can take whatever good with whatever bad you want.


I don't have health insurance so I can't actually afford healthcare despite needing it really badly


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based romans


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>You have to take the good with the bad
The full eradication of the entire world is impossible with pre-agrarian technology. If you really find The Bomb terrifying the inevitable end conclusion you will come to is that technology has been misused by powerful people for the entire history of humanity.


Impending societal collapse across most of the Western world seems less than ideal to me.



This sushi expressed my thoughts.

We're progressing towards a technology facilitated dystopia.

Politics and hatred everywhere. Political correctness turned into censorship.

I'm quite a loner, for several reasons, but this shit just discourages from socializing and makes me want enjoy life in solitude more, even it's just watching animu, mountain biking, travelling and shit


I feel like that too, but I don't know how to stay comfortably independent in solitude. Hard to find a source of income I think. Might be possible through certain crafts, but that also requires some investment, which might not be possible for NEET and low income loners.


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>low income

Hmm. I worked at factory earning almost minimum wage, while studying, for 4 years, before moving on to a proper office job.

Living w/ my parents and adopting a very strict financial regime helped me out a lot. I managed to build a decent PC, buy a car, go to anicons, travelled to Japan, etc…

I took pleasure not from instant gratification in buying that new figure, but in the commitment to, and accomplishment of, the goal I set that was to buy said figure.

Save, plan ahead, don't contract debt. I think it's doable.

Even for NEETs. If you're very emotionally unstable, try setting smaller, easier objectives, and work your way up. The hardest part is getting a job. From the shit I've seen, anyone can get a job, no matter how crappy it is. It pays and that's, not all, but, most of what matters. This mindset helped me.


I just came here to check these digits.



People are much more friendly than you realize, sushi.

the loudest people often have the worst to say. I can literally say that out of all of the people on earth, about 16% re as bad as you think.

Go talk to your neighbors. Hear their stories. Learn to love.


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holy crap! nice digits, sushi roll…


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>We live in the greatest age known to man.
Wanna back up that claim, buddY?


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But I am not the greatest man to live in this age.


I'm still a piece of garbage though
this >>5671


I can't wait for the future. Think about all of the amazing new technologies scientists will invent to help reverse the aging process. It truly will be the greatest age known to man


“The only value of this world lay in its power - at certain times - to suggest another world.”


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He's wrong but he has a point, constant negativity is not sustainable.


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It is if you go full nihilist. Aka nothing matters, but I don't care.
It really maxes out confidence and comfort doing whatever you want since you get to spit in the face of cosmic forces. Helps that people respect someone with bottomless confidence, because who can be scared of consequences that don't matter?


A pessimistic view protects me from all the evil in world and all the pain I could experience. If you are negative there is nothing to fear and nothing uncomfortable. Embracing the pain is the final step of a positive person. It negates the nihilistic truth because pain matters and it matters to everyone. Human life is an afford to fight the inherent negativity of life. In this sense, because humans are able to resist negativity in some rare occasions and in some temporary moments through creative and empathic actions, humans are transcendental beings who are able to overcome their fate.

People like me much more since I accepted this mindset. Because I stopped caring about myself. I am not important. What's important is to face the negativity of existence which is a problem for everyone. So I gave up on my own improvement and pleasure and try to help other people. To ba able to help others you also have to care about your own well being otherwise you are too weak.

I never talk to this about anyone except I would be explicitly asked. This is a way of living and others notice. The reasons for what I am doing I keep to myself. I don't even think those are important. In fact I could be very wrong and you could give arguments why my propositions are faulty. That's not what matters to me. It's an ethos not a logical explanation.


we're in the cyberpunk future fiction always talked about. things get better everyday, but the divisions between people never change. in the end, only the rich can really reap the benefits of the modern era.


But we don't live in the 1800s…


Guys, I'm not depressed anymore. I believe OP.


If you live around negative people, it's due time to have negative thoughts


I'm surrounded by generally positive people but I'm still depressed
I'm happy to hear that


Didn't know Steven Pinker went on sushichan


What a time to be alive.


Start being positive.
We live in the age where America falls, and with it: modernism.


In some ways, I agree. In other ways, I disagree.


I don't see how.

The actual modernist movement (which I know you're not referring to) happened all the way back in the 1800s, before the US was a world power, and it largely developed in western Europe anyway.

Postmodernism (which you probably are referring to) definitely owes more to the US than modernism does, but it spread outside of the US pretty damn fast and has dominated the culture of most first world countries, including eastern ones like Japan and South Korea.


>fortnite dances
I don't know why kids making asses of themselves is considered to be the sign of a falling society. Everyone does dumb shit when they're in highschool. It's just part of growing up.


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Brush your teeth & arrange for your annual dental check-up.


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Remember to floss & use mouth-wash.


80's style Gura is very cool


And only use it to stay on Facebook.


Technology is ambivalent. Each new technology brings great good and great evil with it, proportional to how powerful that technology/knowledge is.

Nuclear Fissile Energy IS the solution to the climate crisis.
Nuclear Fissile Weapons will kill millions.

Its important that we be cautious and diligent with new technologies so that we use them responsibly, but at the same time fearing technology and trying to run away from it is like trying to hide from one of the seasons. Primitivism seems like an overreaction based on speculations about how BAD the future will be, instead of how GOOD it could be.

Try to be an optimistic realist sushi, you won't grow back a single hair on your head by worrying about the future.




rad optimist

gay pessimist


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>A pessimistic view protects me from all the evil in world and all the pain I could experience
This is just a form of self-deception. Negativity doesn't protect you from anything, and incentivizes laziness and underachievement by making excuses for why you shouldn't even try. Accepting pain and moving on is important, but what you're advocating for is a kind of conformism that hand-waves life away with pessimistic attitudes towards the whole ordeal. You gave up on improvement and pursued useless platitudes like altruism because it was easier than giving a damn and trying to get somewhere instead of meandering through life like you have. The only boon to your doublethink was the apparent confidence you achieved once you realized that you don't have to care what others think about you, but you could have come to the same conclusion as an optimistic realist as well.

Stop deluding yourself and pick up growth mindset with a realistic optimistic outlook on life and meaning. Because truth is a reality, not an ideal. Because your perceptions aren't the abstract reduction of chemicals within an electromagnetic lattice. Because life has more meaning when you can enjoy both its highs and its lows, rather than a detached static of experiences painted by a veneer of absurdity and hidden behind a facade of nihilism. Because studies prove it has a strong direct correlation to productivity and happiness. Embrace life and see the value in the mundane, or be nothing.


Why do we need heroes?


I stopped reading part 8 a while ago so I could wait till its all finished. Please, is his just a meme? Or is this an actual conversation?


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Its a meme as demonstrated by >>9907

Avoiding spoilers, what adds an extra layer to it is that the top character gives up at the first sign of resistance - he has no internal drive because he is so pessimistic. Meanwhile the character on the bottom is intensely driven and in typical anime protag fashion will keep going even if they're missing an arm and a leg (literally). So it adds that little cherry on top to my point in the existentialism/pessimism rant.

Nothing can stop you when you see all walls as something to climb. Pessimism sees every pebble as a mountain by contrast. Ergo: realistic optimism is the only path forward if you want to live a good life. You control your own destiny.

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Maybe. But only you can improve yourself.


Thinking kids making asses of themselves is the harbinger of doom is part of being an adult.


I think we live in a pretty bad age. The level of information hiding is on a whole new level.


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>The level of information hiding is on a whole new level
But the level of information availability is also unprecedented. Think of:
>Free news from mainstream media websites
>Open source software
>Open-access academic journals
>Q&A sites such as StackExchange

That's just the legal layer of today's information soil. Think of all the books, manuals, journal articles and so forth you can get through torrenting (also IPFS nowadays).

Sure, not all of the resources in the list are available in every country. But governments used to have a much easier job of controlling information: just censor the handful of newspapers that the majority of citizens read and they will be in your service. Now it's harder to prevent ordinary people from finding alternative sources of information, or gaining specialist knowledge from the internet.


So few people actually do and doing so is a pain. And then when you try to interface with the average person they won't believe you.


Now is the best time to learn basic knowledge but the worst to learn relevant truths.


hardly the greatest


>So few people actually do and doing so is a pain.
Okay, but my argument is that it is easier to learn (physics|drawing|government secrets) than it ever has been. If you picked a random human life to live from the whole history of our species, chances are you would pick an illiterate hunter-gatherer with no chance of formal education and not a clue what was happening beyond his/her small patch of the land.

It's hard to educate oneself today, but it used to be literally impossible.

>relevant truths
Such as?


That's subjective.


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Yes, well that's a classic aphorism

"We're living in the best possible reality, says the optimist
The pessimist fears that this may be true"


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You're living now. Do it or make do.


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Vampire Red Wedding


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>You have to take the good with the bad
>The full eradication of the entire world is impossible with pre-agrarian technology. If you really find The Bomb terrifying the inevitable end conclusion you will come to is that technology has been misused by powerful people for the entire history of humanity.
Knowledge is a deadly friend when no one makes the rules
The fate of all mankind it seems is in the hands of fools


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Get time if you are a rich millionaire… not so much, otherwise.


>Get time
Great time.
I have a headache.

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