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 No.12680

I get the impression that people here are nostalgic for the "old" internet, whatever that may be. Without the thread devolving into "old good, new bad" and complaining about tiktok/twitter/ect, what are some nice memories of yours from the early days of the internet. Hell, what are some bad memories you have?

 No.12685

I arrived at the tail end of the 90s. At that time I mostly explored fan sites and those chat sites that yahoo and others hosted. Many of those were just web clients for an IRC channel.

The diversity of fan and chat communities were nice back then. Spread out among several services, and sometimes self hosted. I think people still make fan pages, but it doesn't seem as widespread anymore. Maybe they never really became uncommon, just drowned out by the sheer volume of new internet users that arrived during the 00s.

 No.12686

I loved trawling geocities pages and seeing all the neat sites people would make.

 No.12689

>>12685
That's always been my idea. Those fan sites still exist, they just aren't the focus of attention anymore. And honestly, I'm kind of glad? I've seen people try to emulate "old net" style and the for me the word that comes to mind is necrophilic.

 No.12700

I miss when things were slower and quieter. Nowadays everything moves at a mile a minute and everyone's always talking about some dumb drama that nobody should care about.

 No.12701

I never spent much time on the old internet. I mainly used the internet for purchases and sales on early eBay. Didn't branch out into the communities until the late 00s, and though it seems nicer than today's net, I'm not sure that isn't just nostalgia. Sat around on chans for a while, but the closest thing to "old" culture was the first two months of 8ch

 No.12702

>>12680
i got my first laptop with internet access in 2006, when I was 17. I remember staying up late browsing /b/, uncyclopedia, and other stupid sites, just crying laughing at all the stupid stuff on there.
I rarely laugh at stuff on the internet anymore. Or maybe the stuff that's around these days is just not funny anymore.

 No.12703

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>what are some nice memories of yours from the early days of the internet.
I'm very young for this site, so most of my early memories are in the later internet age of 2010-2016. I mostly spent my time on deviant art forums and /ic/ to learn art. Later on I did expand to other boards likes /ck/ and /lit/, but never popular ones like /r9k/, /b/, /a/, etc. I know I'll get dunked on for this, but I used reddit. Finally I read bad webcomic wiki. To be honest I don't have that many ~amazing~ memories. Most of the fun moments were childish antics I look back and cringe on.
I did like /ic/ because they introduced me to so many resources and kicked my ass into actually grinding. If it wasn't for them I'd still be following 'top ten beginner mistakes' videos and drawing once a month. They're negative long-term, but as a beginner they wake you up to how serious art is.
Reddit has to my favorite because I enjoy location based forums. I hated everything on that site except my state, city, and college subs. Sharing a meme about a hobby is nice, but a meme about a location you visit daily? It just hits differently. I did like a few joke subreddits, but now they post the same stuff or they got banned.
>Hell, what are some bad memories you have?
The only reason I joined those sites were to improve my hobbies. I spent all my time shitposting there instead of studying, so I'm disappointed in myself for that. I had all the resources, but for like 2-3 years I just posted online instead of grinding art. I regret this because I had a whole lot more free time back then than I do now and I feel it was wasted. it doesn't bother me now as I'm trying to quit social media to focus on my hobbies, I only plan to use this site and bus-stop.net.
Looking back a lot of the people on the deviantart forums were sad. One was this guy going to an overpriced online college who posted the worse are ever. Another was this girl who dropped out of law school(!) to draw crappy fan art. Another was this bitter mom. It was a sad bunch. I have never seen a good artist active on that forum.
Finally reddit just made me a worse person overall. Browsing depression memes and narcissist parent forums aren't a good way to deal with your issues as a teen. When I became less sad and had actually people to talk to it lost its appeal. Looking back now a lot of the users are crabs in a bucket and it depresses me to read their life stories. Even the people on the site who mock them seem sad. Like one time I accidentally clicked their profile and I saw all of a users recent posts were their life falling apart, "Do ugly people need surgery?", "I'm single at 40, is that OK?", and "I'm moving to japan!" were all in the same account. Any flaw the users had they could make an excuse for.

ironically my best memories of the internet are 2018+. Thats when I kicked my 4chan habit and cut down on reddit and used more obscure sites. As of now my favorite sites online are music blogs that post obscure music and niche news sites.

 No.12705

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It's not exactly old internet, or at least the dregs of it, but i have plenty of memories of reading webcomics, blogs and open-source/hacker writings in the 2000s until maybe like 2013. I loved a lot of it and a lot of it had serious impacts on the path i went down in terms of artistic tastes, interests, politics, and even career but i never really engaged with any community around them except for sometimes talking about some with people i knew IRL.

I think that's one thing that was different for me than a lot of people who were maybe engaging with that stuff a few years earlier or at a more independent age - for me it was much more about seeing this cool stuff and maybe longing for a community around it, than actually being in one. I didn't get into socializing online myself until late in highschool. I definitely miss that kind of thing, but i don't really know to what extent sites today have lost their mystery and edge (except for hyper-politicized edge) and to what extent i have lost my affinity for it

 No.12743

>>12703
Not many people on imageboards admit they like (or liked) reddit. And honestly? I kind of liked it, too. The smaller subreddits are the best. You start to remember people's names, inside jokes and unsaid rules. This is just my opinion, but I think people don't want to admit most forums/social media sites are very similar to one another, the good and the bad. Large sites like those specialize in mostly the bad, though. I wouldn't limit the "crabs in a bucket" mentality to people like that 40 year old guy or those deviantart people. It's everywhere. Mentally stable and emotionally mature people just aren't the type to post on the internet for hours everyday. And if that kind of behaviour is off putting and you want to avoid it, I think that's a good sign.

 No.12745

i really liked the old internet. It seemed better to me because it was less corporate and more on creativity than vanity like the modern social media encourages now.

 No.12746

>>12745
People say the modern net is too vain, but is it? IMO it's actually the opposite; people fade into the background too much these days.

For example, take the decline of personal sites. In the 90s and early 2000s, you made your own site and hosted it on something like geocities or anglefire. Since you were building it from the ground up, it was 100% yours and you could do whatever you wanted with it.

By the mid-2000s, most people used blogging services like livejournal and blogspot. They were a bit more restrictive in terms of design since the baseline functionality had already been decided for you, and they had more emphasis on user to user interaction, but the things hosted on them could still effectively be considered their own sites.

In the late 2000s and early 2010s, people were on tumblr. Tumblr still gave a ton of customization; moreso than even some of the blogging services that inspired it. But it was clear that the focus wasn't really on the individual user anymore. It made a big deal out of sharing and responding to other people's content, and there were lots of users who did nothing but that. It was less about you and more about your place in the culture surrounding you.

Fast forward to today, and everyone's on twitter, which is like tumblr but even more limited. There's next to no customization, and you're restricted to 256 characters per post. Twitter accounts are completely interchangeable, and their content is highly ephemeral.

Individual users aren't important anymore, which sucks because that's what it used to be all about.

 No.12747

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Outside of imageboards, I was a regular on the Myspace religion and philosophy subforum from 2005 to 2008. The 'R&P' was a very fun place. You could have serious, technical philosophical discussions on the philosophy board where there were a lot of philosophy students, then go troll people and start huge flamewars on the more chaotic religion board. The forum had several high-profile trolls, who usually had multiple alts and who would spam or exploit Myspace's code to hijack and kill threads. One of these guys even made a wiki, which is the only thing left of the R&P except for distant memories:
https://myspace.fandom.com/wiki/Religion_and_Philosophy
I don't remember half of the stuff in the wiki, except for the anti-wall of text copy pasta we'd throw at people who wrote too much. It's a bittersweet memory for me because I met my best and only online friend for over a decade through the R&P but she hasn't answered my emails in three years.

On a related note, younger people will never understand just how dominant these 'atheism vs. religion' flamewars were on the internet and I honestly miss them, even though I'd never join in them now. The discourse back then was completely different compared to today. You had people on both sides carefully cataloguing and analysing claims made by the other side, and it was very important to explain logic and methodology to people. The end result was that if you took everything with a pillar of salt (pardon the Biblical pun), you could learn a lot. There was also a sense of distance. The subject was never too serious that you couldn't have a bit of fun and mess around with people, or just walk away from the computer, and I had plenty of perfectly friendly interactions with 'the other side'. In the early 2010s, this discourse was completely displaced by a new set of concerns that are always presented in the most stark, apocalyptic terms imaginable, and that careful cataloguing is practically non-existent.

 No.12752

>>12747
there is a recreation of myspace called spacehey



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