/lounge/ - sushi social

>>21362
>tanachan.org
cool site, i just wish i didn't have to post 50 times to make a thread

>>21540
I think meditation will help. There are a lot of things you can try, but meditating is working directly with the core of anxiety, which is constantly reacting to thoughts and feelings. Once that exhausting mental race stops you can start thinking about the habits and ideas you can change.
Just look for a method that you like (for example, if you don't like sitting cross-legged find a good chair, or if you don't like focusing on your breath focus on an object or body part) and do 5-10 minute sessions a few times during the day.
It is like doing stretching exercises to fix years of bad posture. If it feels too hard or too easy you are probably doing it wrong. It should take a decent amount of mental energy, but if you stick to it the reward is really worth it.

>>21541
>walking in nature and listening to bird songs, drinking tea, cloud-watching, playing in the dirt/sand like a kid
Sounds good but I have a hard time not thinking about things. You know like work and life related stuff. Racing thoughts. If I drink tea and read something, I start worrying about everything I haven’t read or I don’t know yet.

>>21546
Horror games are great for this. They really help but I have to be in the right mood to play them and often I’m too restless. If I pick up other games, I end up thinking about other things instead of focusing on the damn game. So I wind up picking up books and studying them and dividing my attention.

>>21549
I’ll try meditation. Not really sure which type is good or real but I’ll try it.

I like to scream song lyrics.

In places where no one can hear me of course.

I bottle it up until I finally snap and ruin a relationship with the scant few friends I have.

That or I go in the woods for a while.

Okay right now I am super stressed. Small things fill me with existential dread. I can play a game or watch an anime I’m currently into but I am too stressed out to do these things. I tried playing the show but I kept pausing the video and pacing up and down my room castasrophizing over one sentence in an email.

The problem of online life is that its not like real life but is slowly colonizing the meatspace. Since most of our value systems involve social interaction how can we have any morality in a world that's less and less social?

>>21455
i think it's a combination of detachment where the other person in the screen becomes content to us like a character and so we can forget they're people like us with complex lives and feelings, and learned behaviour where algorithms and the detachment encourage cruelty as a form of entertainment. It's not that anyone is cruel by nature, but rather that memetics of cruelty infect us.

The NPC meme, tearing others down to hide our own insecurities, the dehumanization of the other. I think perfect blue and serial experiments lain are both connected to this? There may also be a bigger issue of fragmenting reality, simulacra, and a reducing intersubjectivity. Though I don't know these concepts well enough to talk on them, and i believe a lot of this is a consequence of memetics of cruelty that are activating in the current political climate.

>>21450
>>21466
unfortunately in the current system many people are conditioned to adopt a transactional worldview, a worldview of "worthy" and "unworthy" people that justifies cruelty.
Kindness must be motivated by internal loci. kindness is intrinsically worthwhile because of things like sonder. it can be motivated by a sense of obligation from empathy. when you see yourself in another person you hate to see them suffer, and people often come to eachother's aide in times of trouble. you see this extend beyond people, like how often people adopt pets. I'm remainded of "echoes" by pink floyd, one of my favourite songs. "I am you, and what I see is me".

>>21542
There's a famous story about Himmler. One time, he went to inspect a camp where einsatzgruppen were massacring Jews by firing squad. Himmler was visibly distressed at the horrific sight of young girls and children being lined up to die. Visibly pale and weak, he urged his men to be merciful and not to be hurt them. When a piece of her flesh splattered onto his shoe, he thew up and collapsed. But this same guy went back to his office in Berlin and was happy to sign away human lives at the stroke of a pen, ordering others to do what he couldn't stomach. The reduction of lives to statistics, signs which can be manipulated and calculated, makes it easy to be cruel. Personal computers and the internet were cooked up by PC homebrewers and hackers to empower people, but it has increased this process of transforming life into calculable signs which can be engineered according to calculating rationality. This alarming tendency is now colonizing many areas of our existence.

>detachment where the other person in the screen becomes content to us like a character and so we can forget they're people like us with complex lives and feelings
There's another side to this. People taking 2D characters and treating them like people with complex feelings and emotions and duties. The saddest thing about the internet is you can form bonds but they are always disembodied and unfulfilled. I've heard in the dial up BBS days it was common for BBSes to have in person meet ups.

>perfect blue and serial experiments lain are both connected to this?
SEL is definitely about how dehumanizing and disorienting tech has made us but also how addictive and euphoric it can be too. Its a double edged sword. The internet disembodies us and atomizes us, subjecting us to algorithms and market dynamics. This makes it hard to live a healthy embodied social life. It can open up new opportunities, but the forces of state, capital, and our own stupidity inflict damage on us.


>a consequence of memetics of cruelty that are activating in the current political climate
Yes. Modern political ideologies are all built on a friend-enemy distinction. A political community is defined by the antagonistic enemy (we are not them) and the aim is always to overcome, defeat, and destroy tPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>21450
Ibn Khaldun talked about that 600 years ago. In developed civilizations there are no organic relationships between people and morality becomes a series of abstract principles instead of a way of life rooted in the structure of society. In his view, that was one of the main contributors to the fall of civilizations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycEdm086KNs

>>21551
I have issues with the way Ibn Khaldun is translated but I think he's right about urban life. Still I think there are other things going on here too.

Over the last year, some of my relatives started using twitter. Now it’s impossible to talk to them at family meals. All they talk about is race hate, satanic conspiracies, and Jews. They are stupidly easy to dupe with AI content and you can’t convince them it’s fake. They used to be nice to talk to until they stated using twitter.

>>21531
same but dad with facebook. i consider him alzheimer'd

I slept 9 hours today but I still feel sleepy and tired throughout the day. I've had enough water. I feel so lazy.

>>21533
Get a regular sleep schedule. It helps.

>>17067
wtf, why is this so good?

Cutie Honey opening (1973)

Everything about this video is beautiful.

I cooked soup after a long time.
It was naiiiiiiiiisu~~~

Been too lazy to cook recently, but today I made a grilled cheese sandwich. It was so good that I made a second one immediately after. Good lazy day food.

Tacos?

Eat your greens

Got a steak sandwich today; it was really nice.

White to play
L D'Costa vs M Cervinka
https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1173309&m=32

White to play
L D'Costa vs M Cervinka
https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1173309&m=32

Black to play
T Wippermann vs L D'Costa
https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1335225&m=33.5

White to play
P Chilingirova vs H Bade
https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=2795952&m=30

White to play
Suba vs P Stefanov
https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1133543&m=19

>>21507
I am a yankee, so it may or may not help.

I was working as an unqualified person wiwith no degree. My official title was direct support professional. If you search that title on job boards you'll see how bad the pay is. Social work and DSP work pay pretty poorly, but other roles lay okay. But those roles are licked behind degrees. Direct support professional work is for those that truely care, the desperate, and the student. You can work overnights and get paid to stay awake with certain clients. There's even asleep DSP roles! The pay is bad, but the work is meaningful. For the 2nd year in industry I did awake overnights where I did tech skills grind to get out. It's an excellent role on your resume if you want to pursue this industry, just make sure to ask lots of questions about the clients you'll be looking after! It'll make or break the job.

>>21500
I started work young, at 14. I never did straight up retail but my experience in fast food and carnival food taught me how to deal with the public. It was very good for me at that time in my life. I was (am) deeply introverted and socially anxious. It game me the skills to survive the public and coworkers. If you can handle your manager smoking H at work you can handle an annoying boss later in your career :)

Work is just fear. Pure fear.

>>21507
Haven't worked in mental healthcare and don't know what kind of role or place you're thinking about, but wanted to add some perspective and tidbits as someone who spent a month in a psych ward.

You could really tell that some folk actually wanted to help, and some just saw you as a problem. People in there can be very fragile and you need a fair bit of patience. I was having trouble taking the meds early on. One of the staff tried to solve it by being menacing, another told me I could have another chance to take them only if I went to a different room for no other reason I can think of than to learn to obey, training me like a dog.

Also quite important to speak very plainly when interacting with people in an episode. Lots of small things said by staff that wouldn't have been bad for my condition if only they spoke plainly rather than by implications.

>>21434
I've only ever had one job and was fired after a couple months. I've been too afraid to find work ever again or even go outside. Fear of failure hangs over me like the sword of damocles.

All the time. Mostly because of myself.

At any time, I'm scared I will lose my job, and be without the income I'm used to having.

>>21479
Absolutely this. Some of the best readers I've known were mostly self-taught, and I'm self-taught as well. There are some people who get some kind of mentoring along the process, but by and large this isn't the kind of thing where apprenticeship is common. And I'd be skeptical of anybody who takes drugs like DMT and do divination because they tend to have very off-the-wall interpretations in my experience.

Anyhow, I'm good to do readings for anybody who wants them as well. Ask whatever questions you like.

I'd like a reading. I'm a few years into a career, and it isn't leading to a life I want, but means I will never be poor and will remain comfortable. As I've grown older I've tried to become a more well rounded person, as a result I've been pursuing art, which I never did as a teenager. This has resulted in longing to leave my current life behind and pursue something more satisfying. This will lead to an impoverished life and discomfort.

My question for you, taromancer-sama, is what will result if I leave my current life behind to pursue a more unconventional life?

Numbers: 7, 26, 41

>>21490
Situation - Eight of cups (Reverse)
Action - Seven of Pentacles
Outcome - Queen of Wands (Reverse)

The eight of cups reverse is exactly your predicament. You're in a difficult spot; you don't like what you're doing, but the devil you know is more comfortable than the devil you don't. Too anxious to move on but too worn out to stay, you're left stagnant without a purpose or reason for being in your position. What you should do in this senseless predicament is move forward cautiously and clearly, but you should begin making some kind of moves instead of being stuck in this situation where you can't decide if you will or won't. Your current life is breeding a lot of strong emotions and you should be very aware of how those are affecting your judgement. Look for outside support when possible and try to examine things without your emotions involved. Looking at your options, it's clear that you're not living any kind of life worth living right now, so the question of whether or not to move on from your current career should really only be one of if you can enjoy or survive in your next. You should let go of your current job gradually and as it becomes materially sound to do so, and you shouldn't hesitate to change course if you find that striving to have a career in art is too unrealistic or not for you after all. Additionally, be prepared to take on extra work pursuing a new career instead of just jumping into it headfirst. This will be difficult. It will probably be tiresome at times, and specifically you should be weary of trying to be obsessively in control of things whether you ultimately decide to change careers or not. You shouldn't be afraid to let others take up some of your responsibilities or to stop taking care of others' for them.

>>12031

I'll bite. I'm curious if person M will approach me in the near future or alternatively if I should initiate contact and how it will go. # 7 12 33

>>21525
Past - Judgement
Present - Ten of Pentacles (Reverse)
Future - Six of Swords (Reverse)

In the past, there has been a good deal of conflict in your relationship with this person. The source of this conflict may have been, as the card's name implies, excessive judgement. Judgement as a card is also one that symbolizes karmic recompense. Expect to your intentions and actions to come back accordingly. This situation has led to a present feeling of instability and alienation in regards to this person. The future seems to only hold troubles down this road as well. You can expect to find more instability, stagnation, and relationship troubles.

Here's a bit of non-magical advice for you, sushi. I'm not sure what your relationship is/was with this person, but there are 2 suggestions here:
A. You shouldn't rely on other people acting for you. If you want something, such as to rekindle a relationship, you should be the one to take the first step towards that.
B. Don't be afraid to let go of things, especially if you're not good for each other. The cards seem to be suggesting this is the superior option if I am being honest.

Fitness advice? Don't skip leg day.

>>20694
>>20695
>>20696
Let me clarify. First I'm not OP just in case any of you mistakenly thought that. Next I was saying my legs look oddly fat almost but I am not sure it really is fat or flabby large muscle or fluid retention or if it's just I have long calve muscles too which would be unfortunate for me since I just like leaner looking legs. It firms up when I flex so it definitely isnt all fat. I do seemingly have underdeveloped glutes though so it makes me think maybe my legs have the muscles developed out of balance as part of it. I have a BMI in the mid range and my ribs partially show so I am not sure if i somehow have too much fat in some areas and not others or what. I tried to use compression socks and elevation to make sure it's not just fluid retention which didnt do a whole lot. So I was wondering to myself if muscles can become more lean but more toned instead of just getting stronger, firmer, or larger. Not that is only part I can work on just it is one thing that bothers me more.

>>20697
I haven't heard of the term ORP, I do not know what that stands for. I see it called 1RM I think. Reps of what though? Just in general you mean?

>>20715
Oh, sorry, i typed ORP instead of ORM and yeah, 1RM = ORM. It is a repetition of whichever exercise you're doing for that exercise, so if you can squat 100kg only once then that's your current 1RM for squatting but it doesn't mean your 1RM is 100kg for curls (unless you have insane bicep and forearm strength).

As for your legs, seems complicated but you won't know until you experiment, you can work out without trying hard to tone the muscle, you can do a lot of cardio and diet to lose fat and see what happens, you can do calisthenics since it sucks for legs.

Do resistance training ie. lift weights

I've cut out a meal and do some daily exercise but haven't found a gym yet. Still I seem more bloated and fatter than ever. I'm clearly doing something wrong. Thinking of joining a sports club so I have someone to show me what to do.