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Tfw a friend induces bad feels

>getting drinks with friend

>starts talking about this grill I used to be friends with and had a huge crush on
>they're still friends
>been 2 years and I'm over it but avoid her like the plague
>"yeah she got back with her ex. I know you two will end up married though once you're both done being idiots."

My question is, is this the kind of opinion that normal people feel comfortable voicing? It seems completely over the line to me and really headfucked me.

Also pls delete thread if annoying social bullshit isn't allowed


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Him being comfortable voicing such thoughts might have something to do with you two being friends.
Maybe he feels closer towards you than you feel towards him.

>getting drinks
>with friend
>talking about grill
Normie reee



>Also pls delete thread if annoying social bullshit isn't allowed

This is not wizardchan as far as I remember. also we're in /hell/, so…

Anyway, OP, your friend seem like a cool guy. Some people are just straight up honest like that, but I think its intents were good.


Oh I should clarify, friend is a girl too. But yeh I guess you're right


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Similar story happened to me recently
>really bad at meeting new friends. All my friends are internet friends
>decide to go to board games meetup
>get invited to someone's house to play more boardgames the next day
>alcohol and conversation occurs during boardgames
>casually mention that taxes are literally theft
>"well yeah sushi roll but muh roads"
>"have you EVER been to a public school?"
>these things would still exist if they weren't funded by the government. If they're necessary for society, then society will fund them
>well I guess I can't argue with that
They also kept saying mean things about large groups of people like big bullies.

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D O Y O U R E M E M B E R .
I dont like comfy;;;;;;;; i lov it


The 26th night of September? /hell/ yeh I do buddy

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Transhumanism is shit. Uploading ones self to a computer will leave them open to control by megacorps and shit. Swapping your robust human body parts for "superior" robot parts will leave you to get shut down for having thoughtcrimes against your government or glorious corporate overlords.
>but what about muh open source?
even if an open source team were good enough to connect parts to your nervous system how the hell would that be secure or safe?
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Did you deliberately forget biopunk?


Tbh the fundamental problem with a lot of stuff like this is that people view rebellion/revolution as something catastrophic, rather than essentially a safety valve. For example, there's a great book, "The Moral Economy of the Peasant" that analyzes peasant rebellions in southeast Asia as being primarily caused by disruptions to equilibrium in subsistence level economies. So basically, people are constantly worried about food shortages, governments start taxing them without an eye to how that affects subsistence, they rebel, no taxes. Not an ideal system but simple and cyclical system. I think with the current system that we're all more or less living under, we're definitely in a plane above the subsistence level, but there's really no release valve for a lot of irrationalities. So the government can fuck up your healthcare, archive your internet, fuck with your computer, crash the economy, whatever, but there's nothing to stop them from doing any of that. Transhumanism's just going to make it worse.

What happens when we all become smartfridges? I dunno, death cults probably.


don't we have death cults already? I think now that we have a relatively more advanced social, political, and economic system, these cyclical "revolutions" will most likely be staged in the very venues that make things so complex. I think we already see that on the internet, in the turbulent global economy, and in the most educated levels of our society. I mean think about it, the US elected a meme for president because they were frustrated with the alternative.


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Surrender your flesh, it is a relic and must be replace by better systems. It is moral imperative that you comply or you must be vaporized less you hinder our progress or denied future generation the gifts we give you today. The society you live in, the economy you suffer under and government you are ruled by will be destroyed or reformed into a more efficient means. You will soon learn to appreciate the singularity and newfound reality of pure pleasure. We also have a sick collection of happy hardcore and provide augmented reality waifus that act as life coaches and lovers.


>these cyclical "revolutions" will most likely be staged in the very venues that make things so complex
You mean within institutions of power (governments, banks, companies, etc.) like individual actors or factions or do you mean like mass movements expressed culturally or something else?

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Why do people here post in giant walls of text?

It's really fucking annoying

Stop trying to use an imageboard like it's a blog

Just chill out and get to the point
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pls no


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oh no where are my cool guy socks?!


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I agree that writing walls of text is annoying, it's just too much beating about the bush, you can always find a way to be concise and express all that you want to say instead of just writing an annoying essay about your life that nobody will read, it looks daunting in the first place and it usually is nothing but a bunch of random thoughts just put together because you didn't care to think about what you were going to say and the most efficient way to say it, so you often end up repeating yourself or giving out a bunch of useless details. I am sure everybody can, giving it enough thought, express themselves succintly and clearly, perhaps you have to say a lot and you end up with some very dense stuff, even obscure, either by the choice of words or just because there is so much meaning behind what you are saying that some ellipsis is necessary. There is no way around entropy anyway, any means of expression is bound to introduce some noise, and writing too much is one such way of obscuring the intention of your post, people might just ignore it altogether, or just be annoyed because you end up thinking in circles. Indeed, it seems like most of the times you write and write and write endlessly you're just dumping your thoughts which, in your own mind, are unorganized and even chaotic. It lacks not only self control but care about what you're writing and regards for the reader's attention, you are just dumping, not going back over what you said, it's as if every sentence you write just goes right from your stream of thought and into the screen, and then you leave it behind and not even care about what you just wrote. In the end, the only thing that comes clear is how restless your mind really is and how unorganized your ideas are. Often the strategy for right expression (or whatever) is to carefully craft your words in order for them to have the most impact, else, when you write walls of text the meaning gets dilluted. Even in the process of organizing your thoughts for expressing them, you are doing a service to yourself in organizing them inside your mind so you end up less confused. Most of the huge walls of texts are people that can't set their mind straight and introduce a lot of noise from their own mind, they distract themselves from that which they say they are trying to focus on. The point is that these long texts end up looking like a confused rant.
So please don't write walls of text, I urge you, I beg you, you can do better, please be considerPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


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u a qt roll

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Merorin was here, you guys are california rolls


How rude.






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I want the kind of mega milk that comes out of penises, not boobies.


i want boytenryuu to fuck me so bad


Damn he's so hot. You got more?


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y'can look up mikoyan on e-hentai
his girltenryuu is as good, he is bisexual heaven
god I wish more artists drew guys like this, completely girlish traps are boring


Hmhm, I don't like the "draw a girl and say she got a penis" style. Manly or slightly manly traps are the best indeed. And thanks, will look him up

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I've seen some posts like these and I feel like the use of racial slurs like 'chink', 'jap', and 'black dragon roll' (though I haven't seen that on this board) are uncomfy. What are the mods' thoughts on this?


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i never get offended by racial slurs then again im not asian so idk


Sushichan is a hugbox.


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But its supposed to be a hug box.
How else do you get comfy with out hugs?
>threadly reminder Asuka will always be best girl.


How is complaining about racial slurs not comfy, but racial slurs themselves are? This was originally posted in /yakuza/ where that kind of stuff is allowed anyway.


I think that there is nothing wrong with the words themselves, as long as they aren't being used for the sake of being a dick

Something like "real nigga hours" is fine, but something like "I think all black dragon rolls should be hanged" is not

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merorin was here, you guys are california rolls


Do not litter with explosives, thank you.

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I just wanted to post some stuff I've been thinking about chans. There's no special point I'm arguing.

As far as I am concerned 8ch has been taken over and destroyed. I was just looking at some screenshots of some older 8ch stuff today: that whole story about the bank robber, people having fun with copypaste before racequeen, all the fan art about nomads travelling from 4chan and rebuilding. It was nice to remember back and think about what a good run we had. I feel like none of the new alt-alt chans have any hope of being close to what 8ch was and that's a shame.
More than that thought I'm starting to feel like the imageboard medium is a dead end. I asked myself what do you even get, today, out of an imageboard that you don't on reddit or something else. They're heavily censored these days, I find that the mods on these create-your-own-board sites really abuse their positions and remove far more than they should.
Maybe it's wrong to focus so much on the free speech aspect, the main purpose of chans is to free people by removing the assocation of their post from their identity. That is the key. What do we gain from that? Frustratingly a great deal of noise and incessant meme posts is one of the results. It's too easy to drag down the level of discussion.
The cultures are often based on paranoia and distrust to the point that spending too much time on a chan can leave you unable to interact and integrate with non-chan people. Not to ignore the enojable side of it: all kinds of chaos, fun. a place to learn about extremes thaht you would never normally see (gore, fetishes, horror stories, …). but I see the creation of OC drying up. Memes used to churn around pretty regularly, but now how long as pepe the frog been going? Also the weird meta-awareness and understanding of memes and propogation has created a weird new irony to everything. The innocent playfulness has been lost.
What would you like to see in the future? How can be change the medium itself to enable better more creative communities to form?

Some interesting articles on chan culture (got any more to share?)
- http://kazerad.tumblr.com/post/96020280368/faceless-together
- http://thebaffler.com/salvos/new-man-4chan-nagle
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I first discovered 4chan back in early 2007 when I found a video on youtube which had comments pointing out where such "internet jokes" were coming from. Until months after I got to know the website all I did was just lurk since I've seen people get completely humiliated on /b/.
I think that, without a doubt what I miss the most is the old /g/.

Well, I still visit 4chan and 8chan even nowadays since I set up filters to hide stupid threads but it's no use, time and time again new stupid types of spam come and I have to set up new filters it's ridiculous.

I don't think a new chan that unites all the non-cancerous people would be the solution, that would turn out to be just a temporary fix that eventually would just end up the same as 8ch did.

What I think is the ideal option is something among the lines of what sadpanda does, apply somewhat arbitrary rules to filter potentially bad users from joining.

If there's no type of invitation/selection process than it will eventually result in a cesspool of shitty threads.

There's also a problem that many don't seem to realize: the internet as we know it is dying.
Dying in favor of desktop and mobile programs that serve the sole purpose of data input/output to/from a dedicated server backed by big corporations.

I personally don't think this is necessarily bad technology-wise but the fact that websites that adopt such features are generally backed by big corporations who are heavily against free speech deeply saddens me.


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The only thing making it seem bad is your own self, and your own awkwardness.
It's just some dudes, who probably share a lot of interests, meeting up and hanging out.
Whats weird about that? You don't have to forcibly drag chans into the way you interact, and then one could probably have a great time.
Drinking beers, talking about waifus or vidya; Seems pretty nice!


I guess you're right, but I feel like I have a separate personality or side of myself that I'm only comfortable revealing sushi rollymously


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Is there such a thing as "creepy comfy"? If so, where can I find it?


I think uboachan would be your best bet.

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Despite all the amazing shit on the internet, we take it completely for granted. We stay in their PC puddles like facebook or twitter. We laugh at memes made by chans almost a decade ago, and never come up with anything original ourselves.

The tight knit community of old just don't exist anymore, well at least not on the surface web. It's just become to saturated with common people who can't utilize the internet. People who don't understand both how amazing and untamed the internet is.

Let me put it to you this way: The internet is like the wild west. The IRC's, the communities you speak of are the cowboys of the internet. The people on facebook and twitter are the carpetbagging city folk who want to make everything clean and safe and 'civilized'. They've built railroads (facebook, twitter, tumblr) and pulled barbed wire (PC,moderated forums, web monitoring by gov. agencies) across the internet to make it safe and cushy for them.

You and me are cowboy apprentices who came sometime before the railroads and barbed wire ended the west. Soon the wire will parcel the land and the cowboys can't roam anymore, and the internet will be parceled out like ranching land to big businesses (google, microsoft etc.)

Enjoy chans while you can. We all know the regeneration of this community is not good, the userbase will dwindle and die out.
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I don't think a feel good hug box is such a bad thing.
I don't want roll's to go feeling like they can't discuss their concerns. That wouldn't be a very comfy place…
But I easily get distracted by this kind of argument and spend my time stressed, researching, typing and untyping responses. I know it's my problem. But I want to just avoid it in the fist place, so I want sushi to be free of political/internet political rants.
The way the op starts:
>Despite all the amazing shit on the internet, we take it completely for granted.
Who the fuck is this talking about? Everyone I know loves the internet and want's to protect it.
>The tight knit community of old just don't exist anymore, well at least not on the surface web. It's just become to saturated with common people who can't utilize the internet.
I agree learning to program is a nice, transformitive experience, and users of computers and the internet today are not forced to do it. But it's also a lot of work, and I don't think people being able to use the internet easily is a bad thing. Maybe they can't utilize it like a coder with scripts and google fu, but a half step to great is still good.
>People who don't understand both how amazing and untamed the internet is.
Amazing yes. Everyone understands how amazing the internet is. Maybe they haven't studied EoCS, and learned how fast global communication can be built on top of base physical properties, but they do understand that technology is amazing.
Then 'untamed' and the cowboy metaphor?
This is stupid. The building up of technology and infrastructure like railroads is what made the internet possible. Infrastructure and easier living should be celebrated.
The rest of the thread is racism and hatred for the increasing connectivity that is the very point of the internet, before some rolls come to tell op that they are just wrong.
Actually, it's not even true that I want sushi to be free of political rants. I just want it to be free of bad, 'oh we are doomed for some reason' threads. If this was a researched biography of early hackers, or a discussion of the statistics and demographics of internet use then I'd be for it, but it's not. It's just weird fear mongering.


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I agree OP (and some other posters) were being pretty dramatic with all the metaphors and might have underestimated how casual people view the internet, but I think the core of his message was a somewhat valid concern about the decline of some internet communities and culture.

It might just be nostalgia that lets this issue resonate with me, but it's something that I do think is worth discussing.

I do think there is still plenty of interesting discussion, but I would admit it's not as easy to find on major sites like 4chan, partially (and this is my own guess) because the userbase has become so saturated, so the 'chan culture' declined. But within generals and some less popular boards, as other posters have mentioned, there is still a strong feeling of community that I feel many people understandably try to defend from the 'mainstream'.

I feel like these fears account for some of the elitism that really flared up in the past few years, and led to a lot of the un-comfy xenephobic behaviors. The racism is pretty disappointing though, and isn't really funny when it's indistinguishable from all the other semi-ironic political crap that's everywhere now.

As much disdain there is for the whole idea of chans as a 'secret club', to some people like me it really was something special, and ceased to be special when it hit the mainstream. Again, this is just my random thoughts and experiences.


>I feel like these fears account for some of the elitism that really flared up in the past few years, and led to a lot of the un-comfy xenephobic behaviors. The racism is pretty disappointing though, and isn't really funny when it's indistinguishable from all the other semi-ironic political crap that's everywhere now.
>As much disdain there is for the whole idea of chans as a 'secret club', to some people like me it really was something special, and ceased to be special when it hit the mainstream. Again, this is just my random thoughts and experiences.
I wholeheartedly agree. While it might seem foolish at first glance, I kind of miss the old "sushi rollymous is legion" thing, minus the angst angle. It was a really unifying idea that permeated race, religion, and gender in the sole idea of being a united faceless entity of internet weirdos, script kiddies, anime and video game fans, etc. "Hivemind" and "groupthink" have pretty negative connotations but *chan without identity politics differentiated it from reality and separated it from the rest of the internet from its inception to somewhere around 201X.

I've been frequenting a few smaller imageboards outside of sushi and I have to say that interesting and active discussion these days is particularly hard to find. I'm not a fan of the 8gag posting culture that seems to be seeping everywhere where people make empty, angry/bitter/holier-than-thou posts that somehow are supposed to be regarded as objective truth because of that holier-than-thou attitude. Somewhere along the line, being rambunctious and wild on chans (mainly 4) turned into being an obnoxious, predictable bore who could only babble about botnets and rattle off canned "[x] is spyware/a meme/for freetards/etc." phrases.

I don't think the idea of the "secret club" is something to be looked at with disdain, and I don't think it ever was supposed to be. 4chan was an incredible place when I was lurking in '06 before Chanology hit; I had never been on a website like it despite being a YTMNDer before and thinking I was in some secret part of the internet while there. Both of those websites to this day have never been replicated for me in terms of sheer uniqueness of the userbase, and every day I'm a little more sad that the pendulum of life hasn't swung back to those wonderfuPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


I agree that it's gotten hard, but I'm still a bit optimistic about it all, and I like to think this centralization will end some day. Consider stuff like neocities, the *chan fragmentation that's been going on lately, people getting savvy about privacy, and tiredness in general from all the noise going on. I like to think we're still passing through, and in a few years things will be better.
After all, we're in here, aren't we? musing about how to fix this, so not all is lost.


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Cyberspace. A consensual hallucination experienced daily by billions of legitimate operators, in every nation, by children being taught mathematical concepts… A graphic representation of data abstracted from banks of every computer in the human system. Unthinkable complexity. Lines of light ranged in the nonspace of the mind, clusters and constellations of data. Like city lights, receding…

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