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why do people want to die

why message me, of all people? i worry so much, but theres nothing i can do.
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> i worry so much, but theres nothing i can do.
That's the point, Sushi. The guy wanted you to feel that way.


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Nah, they probably don't know how to deal with the situation. The message behind this is essentially "I can't handle this alone." Also whoever was saying that must have great trust in OP.

>why do people want to die

pain and grief in the present, lack of hope for the future, leading to fear for even worse conditions in combination with the inability to change things eventually resulting in despair

serious topic is serious


this is absolutely not true. three people I know have made attempts on their own life and all three of them contacted people as they were ending it. they want to die but they don't want to die alone. and in some cases they want to be talked out of it on a deeper level. one person who attempted on their own life did it during a call with a loved one and was talked down into calling for help to save them before the drugs took effect. in other cases they want to say goodbye to someone they think won't be able to stop them.

this is what makes it so shitty when people do it for attention. because it's something actual suicidal people do too.


These are both excellent posts. Good work, rolls.


>it is most likely a cry for help or they just want attention
Which one of these isn't worth your time to provide?

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>walked in the kitchen to get some tea
>see my parents
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Forever the image of the bowchicka wow wow burns in Sushis mind.


According to Norman Mailer and Shia LaBeouf, you did the right thing, OP.

Congratulations, hipsters think you're cool now. That's the real tragedy in all of this.


what's the big deal, your parents fuck
where the hell do you think you came from dude


The devastating thing is that OP is a test-tube baby

Who was fucking his mom on his kitchen table? Darth Plagueis?



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This webring is comfy and all, but where do people discuss anime nowadays?
4/a/ is so bad that it is the same as /v/ now


tohno /an/ is alright. Other than that I think it's more interesting to talk on smaller IRCs or similar.


I'm doing most of my weebposting at Samachan these days, although I used to spend a lot of time on Tohnochan.

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This car is faster than yours.
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i dont like red cars


me too. theyre the fastest tho


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No it isnt


there is something about Twingo that makes me rage internally
probably the smug eyes


>watches one episode of wangan

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I just wanted to post some stuff I've been thinking about chans. There's no special point I'm arguing.

As far as I am concerned 8ch has been taken over and destroyed. I was just looking at some screenshots of some older 8ch stuff today: that whole story about the bank robber, people having fun with copypaste before racequeen, all the fan art about nomads travelling from 4chan and rebuilding. It was nice to remember back and think about what a good run we had. I feel like none of the new alt-alt chans have any hope of being close to what 8ch was and that's a shame.
More than that thought I'm starting to feel like the imageboard medium is a dead end. I asked myself what do you even get, today, out of an imageboard that you don't on reddit or something else. They're heavily censored these days, I find that the mods on these create-your-own-board sites really abuse their positions and remove far more than they should.
Maybe it's wrong to focus so much on the free speech aspect, the main purpose of chans is to free people by removing the assocation of their post from their identity. That is the key. What do we gain from that? Frustratingly a great deal of noise and incessant meme posts is one of the results. It's too easy to drag down the level of discussion.
The cultures are often based on paranoia and distrust to the point that spending too much time on a chan can leave you unable to interact and integrate with non-chan people. Not to ignore the enojable side of it: all kinds of chaos, fun. a place to learn about extremes thaht you would never normally see (gore, fetishes, horror stories, …). but I see the creation of OC drying up. Memes used to churn around pretty regularly, but now how long as pepe the frog been going? Also the weird meta-awareness and understanding of memes and propogation has created a weird new irony to everything. The innocent playfulness has been lost.
What would you like to see in the future? How can be change the medium itself to enable better more creative communities to form?

Some interesting articles on chan culture (got any more to share?)
- http://kazerad.tumblr.com/post/96020280368/faceless-together
- http://thebaffler.com/salvos/new-man-4chan-nagle
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I don't think he's going to respond


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This was a very nice thread to read! Lots of good points and interesting discussion.
>I'm so tired of everyone yelling at each other over minor differences in preferences and opinions.
Is it just me or is it incredibly difficult to find a community that's inbetween this? Chan sites are usually the ones with a majority of rude people who enjoy disagreeing with everything and tumblr-like sites are the ones that are a huge hugbox where nothing controversial should be said.


I feel like chan cultures main drive is the sushi rollymity. it's less about distrust and more about not having a name or history attached to your post to distract from the content of said post. there are no reputations. there are no upvotes. there are no popular figures. what becomes popular or notorious is the content of the posts, not the people who made them. and that's what there is to gain from chans.

I think you've got the wrong idea if you want anything more than that. in jokes and memes are a result of culture, but not all cultures result in memes and jokes. sometimes cultures just like discussing things and that's perfectly fine. as long as you're just here for discussion, there is plenty to be gained.


Their IRC has me pretty discouraged about the site. It's basically just /g/ 2.0 in a lot of ways, which I find really disappointing since the show embodies a lot more and should be attracting specific types of people, which, I guess you can still sometimes find there in the sea of millions of tech people.


Some people might disagree with me here, but I think a huge thing about imageboard culture, and a major part of what attracted me to it, was that there was always a lot more weird people, for better or worse. So I think there is truth to the mentality that a lot of sites like these get ruined when too many "normalfags" find it. I notice on 4chan nowadays if someone makes a weird comedic post you get these typical "what the fuck bro?" type reactions, where as I remember that kind of stuff being typical or even the basis of a lot of the humor back then.

While I enjoy the sushi rollymity, this is the one aspect of being sushi rollymous I didn't like, it made it very hard to reach out to people you normally wouldn't find anywhere else (unless you literally just ask them to go on a IRC channel or ask if they have X chat client)

I also think since there are so many different uses, cultures, and mentalities that emerged out of imageboard culture now, that making new imageboards with focuses on different aspects of these is good instead of trying to recapture the "glory days". I think people should be thinking forward into how to further branch this out and evolve it to make new things, new cultures that will be remembered as their own glory days.

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Despite all the amazing shit on the internet, we take it completely for granted. We stay in their PC puddles like facebook or twitter. We laugh at memes made by chans almost a decade ago, and never come up with anything original ourselves.

The tight knit community of old just don't exist anymore, well at least not on the surface web. It's just become to saturated with common people who can't utilize the internet. People who don't understand both how amazing and untamed the internet is.

Let me put it to you this way: The internet is like the wild west. The IRC's, the communities you speak of are the cowboys of the internet. The people on facebook and twitter are the carpetbagging city folk who want to make everything clean and safe and 'civilized'. They've built railroads (facebook, twitter, tumblr) and pulled barbed wire (PC,moderated forums, web monitoring by gov. agencies) across the internet to make it safe and cushy for them.

You and me are cowboy apprentices who came sometime before the railroads and barbed wire ended the west. Soon the wire will parcel the land and the cowboys can't roam anymore, and the internet will be parceled out like ranching land to big businesses (google, microsoft etc.)

Enjoy chans while you can. We all know the regeneration of this community is not good, the userbase will dwindle and die out.
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>I feel like these fears account for some of the elitism that really flared up in the past few years, and led to a lot of the un-comfy xenephobic behaviors. The racism is pretty disappointing though, and isn't really funny when it's indistinguishable from all the other semi-ironic political crap that's everywhere now.
>As much disdain there is for the whole idea of chans as a 'secret club', to some people like me it really was something special, and ceased to be special when it hit the mainstream. Again, this is just my random thoughts and experiences.
I wholeheartedly agree. While it might seem foolish at first glance, I kind of miss the old "sushi rollymous is legion" thing, minus the angst angle. It was a really unifying idea that permeated race, religion, and gender in the sole idea of being a united faceless entity of internet weirdos, script kiddies, anime and video game fans, etc. "Hivemind" and "groupthink" have pretty negative connotations but *chan without identity politics differentiated it from reality and separated it from the rest of the internet from its inception to somewhere around 201X.

I've been frequenting a few smaller imageboards outside of sushi and I have to say that interesting and active discussion these days is particularly hard to find. I'm not a fan of the 8gag posting culture that seems to be seeping everywhere where people make empty, angry/bitter/holier-than-thou posts that somehow are supposed to be regarded as objective truth because of that holier-than-thou attitude. Somewhere along the line, being rambunctious and wild on chans (mainly 4) turned into being an obnoxious, predictable bore who could only babble about botnets and rattle off canned "[x] is spyware/a meme/for freetards/etc." phrases.

I don't think the idea of the "secret club" is something to be looked at with disdain, and I don't think it ever was supposed to be. 4chan was an incredible place when I was lurking in '06 before Chanology hit; I had never been on a website like it despite being a YTMNDer before and thinking I was in some secret part of the internet while there. Both of those websites to this day have never been replicated for me in terms of sheer uniqueness of the userbase, and every day I'm a little more sad that the pendulum of life hasn't swung back to those wonderfuPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


I agree that it's gotten hard, but I'm still a bit optimistic about it all, and I like to think this centralization will end some day. Consider stuff like neocities, the *chan fragmentation that's been going on lately, people getting savvy about privacy, and tiredness in general from all the noise going on. I like to think we're still passing through, and in a few years things will be better.
After all, we're in here, aren't we? musing about how to fix this, so not all is lost.


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Cyberspace. A consensual hallucination experienced daily by billions of legitimate operators, in every nation, by children being taught mathematical concepts… A graphic representation of data abstracted from banks of every computer in the human system. Unthinkable complexity. Lines of light ranged in the nonspace of the mind, clusters and constellations of data. Like city lights, receding…


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>they'll look at you like you shot a kitten and lynched it's corpse at half mast over Buckingham palace.
The face is even worse when you tell them you don't have any social media.


I think that it may be the case that imageboard userbases are growing, but not as fast as userbases for more "mainstream" or "consumer" websites, this giving the impression that they are shrinking (because their proportion is shrinking, even if the absolute amounts aren't).

There may also be a level of imageboard/small chan userbases being "spread thin", as the sheer number of chans increase and communities fragment and splinter.

Ultimately though, without actually looking at data, all of this is just conjecture. (And I think it would actually be an interesting project to acquire and organize all of that data, though some of it is probably hard to obtain. How to you measure the number of unique visitors to imageboards in general, for example?)

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Could you explain the joke please?


my favorite live steamer said it once and people laged so it must be funny, whicj is why i said it because saying things that funny people say makes me fubby


its funny bc you can tell it even annoys Joel now


Hi I'm Medamaude and I'm real stupid



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Is this the main board of this dead site
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i guess


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i don't fit in but i'm posting anyway
deal with it


I'm back so it's less dead now I guess.


comfyness board don't move fast famo!


please stop signaturefagging! :)

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