/hell/ - internet death cult

i wanna poke that belly.

yes

koruri has escaped containment

Many would love to be invaded by certain forces.

So many are tired and only certain spirits will wake them.

>>5421
>People want stuff. There's not enough stuff.
That's where you're wrong janitor-kun

There is a 'Zen' way to affluence. If there's not enough stuff, we should limit our wants and live within our means to enjoy a simple but affluent living. But it seems many politicians are obsessed with ideas like productivity and growth and think that we can meet infinite human needs through increasing industrial productivity which necessitates more extensive exploitation of people and nature. This is futile because finite resources can never meet inexhaustible desires. I've only ever read Sahlins and know very little about economics beside him so I CTRL + V'd his shtick here.

>>5410
I don't think Engels is a good fit here. You can't really understand Marx without understanding who he was having conversations with intellectually. I guess for political economy, you'd need to read Adam Smith, and for his social theories you should look at Hegel's philosophy of history and his political theory as well as Darwin's Origin of the Species. Marx was a huge Darwin fanboy. Even sent him a signed copy of Capital.

>>5421
Since we have a economy thread, can't we have a religious studies and theology thread too? What about an anthropology and archaeology thread? Ethnomusicology?

Infinite verities of economies exist.
An economy is a goal.
Such as the goal of the ever increasing quality of a specific collective..

Quality naturally increases unless a barrier emerges and then an economy problem solves.

Some goals never end and that’s the goal.
Goodness gets ever goodder.

Hmm, I will try to respond without reading much of the replies ITT, perhaps I will repeat something but oh well. Also feel free to skip, it's NOT particularly smart or educated in any way hehe.

>Is economics a bunch of lies?
Not quite. But it IS tied into politics heavily and is based on a bunch of political beliefs. Classical economics is based on beliefs of a certain social group hehe.
Now, I think there are at least two ways of looking at economics and both are employed but at times people think economics is only one of them:
- according to the first, economics is akin to managing a factory: good and services come 'round according to a set of predetermined rules - or perhaps there are no rigid rules but the "economy" concerns itself mostly/only with the "functioning" aspect, i.e. to build a car, one needs a long list of prerequisites to be met, both in personnel qualities and the goods provided - why a car should be made is out of the question tbh (generally it's answered as "we need a device to move something from point A to point B" I guess)
Perhaps I'm bad at explaining this, but the point is we leave human motivations from doing anything out of the picture and just focus on managing goods and services. It is certainly reductionist but it's powerful in a sense if you don't master it, you actually cannot get anything done. So, when people say "let's fix the economy" I think a lot of think think like that, let's restore the functioning of the exchange machine. That "definition" of economics is free from any politics but we cannot make a functioning economy without bringing humans into picture.
(TBH perhaps I'm conflating economics and technology a bit but I am myself not sure if one can easily separate the two)
- so, according to the second, economics is humans doing favors to each other. We realize we cannot fulfill our needs by ourselves, so we use others to do our bidding, quid pro quo. So, economy is the art of making deals and related stuff. Also, economics is the way to control others, control society, economies are complex machines of social nature. Therefore it's heavily political. In fact, "favor for a favor" and "mutual exchange" are definitely not the only principles to run society by. Likewise, humans are vile and do things to distort the "fair" picture by doing clearly "unfair" things.
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The body was too long

Now onto some other points
>It has been said the economists definition of rational behavior as behavior consistent with their own models, with all other behavior dubbed irrational
I think there are other ways to approach economics other than "modelling an ideal society" like classical people did, though I haven't studied them really. But yea, I would agree that whatever they teach at schools outside of heavily specialized ones seems to be kinda horrendous. I would agree that political ideologies should NOT dictate economics.
Further down you describe classical liberal economics would be my guess. Yeahhhh, there have been corrections to that, people mostly do not run "pure" liberal economies these days, but the liberal ideology is an insanely tenacious one and things like neoliberalism exist, too.
>Similarly, Trobriand islanders used to travel great distances to trade seemingly useless and valueless objects Why?
TBH I don't know why but yea, I would agree that humans are generally not rational beings. In fact, rationality is a human invention, I don't think there was any civilization other than the European/Mediterranean one which would be so stuck up at pursuing the truth. I think most civs just follow the hedonistic route, more or less. Trying to answer that question though, maybe it's the journey that matters to them more than the end goal w
>Even the whole inc*l trend was caused by people trying to apply economics to sex and relationships and its created a whole horde of delusional people
To be fair, to me incel stuff doesn't seem to be *that* out of touch with reality. As far as I know, there were certain periods of history during which certain societies all across the globe… basically treated women as livestock aka slaves and a [valuable] commodity - so, women could be traded like goods, deprived of agency and certainly be an object of economies. It is really as simple as that. So, some men want to revive it heh - I know I don't hehe. I assume the "delusion" ascribed to incels is that they can find a loving soul that way - yeaaaa, let's just say they are not necessarily looking for one, they just want a woman to fuck and dominate or something.
>Are there any good economists?
The ones concerning themselves with human nature as opposed to delusional modelling. The ones Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

ive been a neet with no job for over 20 years, i win.

The keys to the internet is a turf war.
The opponent is the utmost vaguely slightest associated forces of the rejected singularity. Intolerance/standards makes girls stronger.

My singularity is absolute girl power.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xsPtUNB1z-Q

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fGALcE5BD4U

My singularity files all assessments of even the slightest multiversal conflict and creates infinite verities of compilements to be assessed by unanimously agreed upon vastest verity of assessors. And puts volunteer girls to sift and sort and create, giving volunteer girls authority&power to design our singularities multiverse.





girl volunteers
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>>5427
I feel often the most important conflicts to solve are the ones at the outer most rim of an issue. For example many issues can be linked to the massive Queen wars of the past.





girls who think of these utmost petty slightest grifts are of
the most powerful people ever..

>>5370
Because working, attaining wealth but lacking a true calling in life is the greatest hell of all.

>>5366
I'm in the same boat, so I'll jot here what I write for myself:

What do you mean by "the most out of life"? If money, be involved in business. If helping, go volunteer. If learning, read smart books and ask smart people. If laughing, visit a club or show.

If you don't know, that's great! There's truth in "I know that I know nothing." But don't let humility stop you from wandering around! It's a wonderful life :)

>>5366
It's a bit hard to say without knowing anything else about your interests, but I think travel tends to be a good thing for anyone with the energy and means to do so. Go places with a mind to have an adventure, even if that adventure is just a stroll in the park and finding lunch somewhere. Pack light and maybe stop at some interesting roadside attractions. Humans make loads of weird stuff and it is all out there somewhere.

Buy some land out in the middle of nowhere and build a rehabilitation center for NEETs.

Send your money to me and you will earn my gratitude. And that, my soon-to-be friend, is priceless.

>>5189
Was it ever not one?

>A vpn keeps you sushi rollymous on the internet.
no, the ones you see in sponsors just log your data to either sell or to give up in a subpoena
>It bypasses any school, home, office or country blocker.
unless they block it
It keep you un-banned from any website.
that's what i thought too until album art exchange blocked my IP for going there with a vpn
>It keeps the government from spying on your internet activity.
no it doesn't, they either buy it or steal it from the vpn company if they log activity
>It allows you to view region locked content from anywhere in the world.
this is one advantage of a vpn other than changing your ip

>>560
>It keep you un-banned from any website.
in my experience it basically keeps you banned by default, or relegates you to being a third class citizen and harasses you with endless captchas to do anything

>>5187
>I use RiseUp VPN
I wouldn't rely on free VPN's for privacy but I haven't heard anything bad about RiseUp.
>Complete sushi rollymity depends on your software and your mindset
This should be the default mindset. Too many people look for software to set and forget for sushi rollymity.
>There's a lot of guides to increase your sushi rollymity online
https://spyware.neocities.org/
https://digdeeper.neocities.org/index.xhtml
There are much more but those are the two good ones I can think of right now

>try a vpn
>it slows down my internet to a crawl
>videos buffering to the point they're unwatchable
>images load like they're on dial-up
>some websites outright break or auto-ban anyone with a vpn
never again