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Talk about what manga you've been reading!

I've been reading an older manga called Yume Tsukai by Ueshiba Riichi. It's about magical shrine maidens with weird powers solving paranormal mysteries and stuff. Fairly standard concept but what makes it good in my opinion is just how crazy and bizarre the stories get, as well as some really fantastic art and a nostalgic sort of comedy. It's sometimes goofy, sometimes quite emotional, and other times borders on Junji Ito-esque horror scenarios. I really like the creepy body horror stuff, and the comedy between the weirdo cast is fun. I especially like the over the top lolicon character.


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I started reading this today https://mangadex.org/title/38628/if-my-wife-became-an-elementary-school-student

Despite the trashy premise it's actually pretty heartwarming and interesting. The relationship triangles/squares/whatever that are forming really make me want to know how everything will turn out. I like the art too.


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Even though the jokes are dumb and obvious, it can still be pretty funny.


I just hope it ends with them getting to be together again against all odds, instead of the more likely ending of having the dad move on and get with the OL who is crushing on him.


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eh? did my image spoiler not work? test test


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Nope, turns out I'm just an idiot
Oh no. I didn't really expect this manga to get dark. Not sure how to feel about this.


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I'm a big fan of Ueshiba Riichi's work after being introduced by Mysterious Girlfriend X. He's got a really unique style, and everything he writes has a weird fetishistic quality to it that's really interesting. Glad to hear you're enjoying it.


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Really fun manga about a spy who has to fake having a family.


Holy cute, I like her.


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I've been enjoying Ponkotsu Ponko. It's about a klutzy loli maid robot causing trouble for a tsundere old man in a tired old town.


I just finished catching up to this, it was very good.


I think the funny thing is that since we see the series from Ponko's point of view, she's clearly conscious. It starts begging the question of how ethical it is for people to 'decommission' her considering she passes the Turing test and also is a conscious being.

Reminds me of that one doujin series that ends with 'the happiest robot in the world' or something.


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Has anyone been reading pic related? It's about an immortal being and their lives throughout a number of different eras. It's by the author of Koe no Katachi and has the same pacing issues at time, but on the whole it's been a interesting as a somewhat more serious take on the Isekai genre.


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I've been following it since the near-beginning. Despite the small pacing issues, the general atmosphere is pretty incredible. The expressions and dialogue really give you an acute understanding of each character's personality. The author has a gift when it comes to storytelling.


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I decided to check out black clover on a whim and just finished reading chapter 1. It's sloppily edited from chinese raws, some english is a little awkward but it moved me.


I heard there's an anime so I'm definitely checking it out, then jump to the manga. It looks really damn promising.


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I started reading a manga called Candy and Cigarettes. It's about an old man working with a loli assassin. I like Gunslinger Girl very much so it seems up my ally. It's nowhere near as serious so far, and I'd go so far as to say it's intentionally campy, what with the comically evil bad guys and the vaguely defined "secret organization" he just stumbles into working for. However it's fun enough just for the spectacle of things. I do enjoy the scenes of the little girls "normal" life as compared to her life as an assassin, and the interaction between her and the old man is pretty amusing.


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I'm no strelo/k/ but I don't think that's how a gun works


How do you mean?


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Seems normal to me.


I'm a volume into Gunsmith Cats Burst. So far it's been a let down compared to the original series, but not horrible. I just don't enjoy Bean's character and his constant ass pulls and plot armor.

Not him, but her hand has movement lines on, but the slide is fully forward. You never ride the slide home on an autoloading pistol, you can end up will all sorts of issues. >>641 pic related is fairly accurate for a Beretta 92D, but looks inaccurate for a 92FS.


Finished Chio's School Road the other day, some of the later parts felt kinda rough but all in all I enjoyed it.
Currently getting back into Fist of the North Star, enjoy the manga much more than the anime, much more to the point. Just got through the part where Raoh and Toki have their faceoff.
Planning to switch it up with GTO which I haven't read since I was a teen, and that was just some one-off chapters in one of those manga mix mags I subscribed to a while.


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While we're nitpicking, there's this panel…
It's a dumb campy manga though, who cares. Girl also has no trigger discipline.
I've never read Burst, or the original Gunsmith Cats for that matter, but I love the OVAs
> I just don't enjoy Bean's character and his constant ass pulls and plot armor.
I thought he was great in Riding Bean in a silly sort of way, but I like the really stupid things like his bulletproof headband. I gotta admit to liking Rally better though. I think I've read that Sonoda wanted Bean to be the focus of his series at first but ended up with the girls as main characters instead.


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I've been reading Dainana Joshikai Houkou, a weird manga about two girls in future Japan. It's a high school slice of life except with strange futuristic stuff and surreal events. I've been really enjoying it so far.


This is really cool and I like it, thanks for sharing.


I guess my gripe is that when most people get shot in the series, they tend to not get back up and are, at the very least, hurt enough to not really put up a fight. Rally's shooting and stuff isn't exactly realistic, but it's not super unbelievable and she still gets trumped by some of the villains. Bean just doesn't. It would be neat to see him pull his stuff out every so often, but even when his plot armor "breaks" he doesn't go down.

>I've never read Burst, or the original Gunsmith Cats for that matter, but I love the OVAs

Then you should read the first series! If you can find it, read the official revised edition in english. The original version was completely mirrored (for left to right flow) and censored to appeal to the American market better. It has some really nice arcs and the art is fantastic. The OVAs are kind of spread out throughout the manga.


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Started reading Holyland yesterday, same author as the one who writes Suicide Island. The art is nothing to write home about but I enjoy his less shounen take on street fighting. It's a slightly more grounded version of e.g. Kengan Asura so if you liked that you might give it a try.


That's definitely a fair gripe. Bean is pretty superhuman, and in a world where most people aren't (at least to that degree) it does feel odd.
>Then you should read the first series!
Once I'm caught up to all the things I've picked up recently…


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I've been really liking Ichigeki. It's pretty aggressively uncomfy, the basic plot is a couple samurai round up some peasants and give them the bare minimum amount of training and send them out to be basically a guerilla hit squad.


just finished rereading Jojo Part 4… I love the Josuke/Okuyasu friendship so much


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This is amazing
Mind reading is so fun when it's not being played for drama or perversion


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Found this manga very cute; from the comments, though, it might hit too close to home for some people.


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I read all of this that's been scanlated thus far while hanging out in a hotel. Very fun manga, and also I will always always fall in love with genki brown tomboys with short hair.


Whatever happened to the one in Bokuben anyway? I seem to remember she was the only one with even a chance against the two main girls, Sensei was by far the best girl but she has less than a snowball's chance in hell.


Why are you in a hotel?


Gonna try to catch up to some of the manga I fell off from following. Namely the one in the OP because it totally slipped my mind.
I was on a mini-vacation.


My favorite manga right now are Joshikousei no Mudazukai and Isyuzoku Joshi ni ○○ Suru Hanashi. Really funny stuff.


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New chapter of this certainly starts out nice


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The dumb gag about her "barrier" made me smile.
Seems things are getting more serious in this case than the other ones though. I wonder if there is going to be some action next time judging by how this one ended.


Dude post your mail.




Keep in contact yuyu


Why do people have such shit taste and 3 out of the 6 winners are published by Jump, how is that fair?


My top 3
1. Slow Loop
2. Ponko
3. Kimi wa Houkago Insomnia
1. Heterogeneous Linguistics
2. Kono Healer Mendokusai
3. Looking up to Magical Girls


Does anyone of any place to get manga raws?


The fact that the author of takagi-san is somewhere in that list is proof enough this is more a matter of these polls being rigged to hell and back and less a problem of shit taste.


>these polls being rigged to hell and back and less a problem of shit taste
What do you mean by this?


Is Takagi-san not popular? It wouldn't surprise me if it was up near the top.


There is absolutely no way something as horrid as takagi-san is as popular as it's perceived to be. There's no way the manga publishing business is immune to backstage politics. I'd rather believe sales numbers can be faked to a degree and that these popularity polls are as legit as a weekly shounen jump's manga's popularity poll results, than accept the reality presented to me at face value. Call me crazy but it's my way to keep myself sane.


Well Nisekoi exists so idk about that one


Why do some people hate Takagi-san so much? I haven't read it in a few years but if it's still the same cute episodic gag manga I don't get it.


To be honest i still don't understand why it wouldn't be popular, extremely repetitive episodic manga have been popular for such a long time.


What the fuck kissmanga is down
They're dropping like flies, what's going on?


Picked up kengan ashura, read up to ch35 and have been enjoying it so far. I like how they take scientific or real-world examples and stretch them to their limit of plausibility. Also like how the pro wrestler character is portrayed (at least so far).


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Spent all night watching "disturbing" doujins, one that took the spotlight was Doku Doku Gravestone. A lot of people in the place where they linked to it seemed grossed out and shocked but I actually found it pretty cathartic for some reason. I think sushi may dig giving it a read.
I find gore less disturbing than, say, mindbreaking for example, that is half time great the other half slightly disturbing


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I've been finding this to be quite cute.


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It's not often I'm scared by someone's thought processes, but the author of this series is one of them.


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It's not really something too hard to comprehend
>What if we took someone clingy and cranked it up to eleven?
There you have it


That was pretty good. Any similar `shocking' doujins?


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The artist has also made a Kancolle themed one that I really liked because it involves Kiso being the cool thing she is, but I frankly don't know much, I just stumbled upon it.
I'd like some suggestions of this kind of material, I suppose sushi knows best


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Takotsuboya has a few doujin series like that. He's got an amazing way of turning existing series into something serious and gritty, with a little bit of smut sprinkled on top. Very good storytelling.

The ones I particularly liked are his K-On! and Girls und Panzer trilogies, but his most important work is Teitoku no Ketsudan, an epic (6 volumes and counting) retelling the story of the Japanese navy in WW2 through Kancolle.
Read them on the panda for the most updated versions.


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Don't make the guppies suffer please


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I've been reading Otome no Teikoku, a really cute yuri manga. I initially started reading because it was hot yuri ecchi, but now I feel ashamed because it's actually just really cute and I'm now reading it for the relationships. The ecchi has also toned down quite a bit from when it started. If you're a fan of yuri, ecchi, romance, or all three, then this manga would probably be really enjoyable for you.


I love it when you can tell from the covers what a manga is all about and this definitely looks like seriously hot yuri ecchi. I'll give this a try.


I tried reading this a while ago but I couldn't deal with the whiplash from it switching between that porno-looking style with fat shaded lips and the cutesy flat and simple style every panel.


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Was going to listen to a Current 93 album but due to life's pathways ended up reading Dragon Head instead. Very very thrilling, I like how there's a presence of the supernatural, but it's not really there. The fact that it seems like a SHTF fantasy that during peak-covid panic I could've seen as a foreseeable future also adds an extra. I'm just in the 4th volume but I'd definitely rec this just for the first two alone.


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I've read this manga, it's actually one of my favorites ever and got me really invested in their cute relationships and everyday troubles.


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I've already completed them but I really recommend Blaster Knuckle for a good laugh, Hell Baby for some horror and Shinya Shokudo for the most heartwarming story where you wish you could meet the characters.


Does anyone know the name of the manga where the main character is a girl working in a tulou. I think she worked as a food taster for some emperor or something.


There's a oneshot straight-up called Life in the Tulou but that's not about food tasting or emperors. I think you might be mixing it up with Kusuriya no Hitorigoto.


Yeah, I was looking for Kusuriya no Hitorigoto. Thank you.


It's an incredibly great manga. Wonder why you thought of a tulou though instead of the herbalist thing. Dunno how you even came across the word tulou.


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I think I read that oneshot and started Kusuriya on the same day, a while ago. Kusuriya's lovely, few manga can have me longing to be a eunuch in the next life. Also Mao's ribbon looks like knife ears in some panels. It's really fucking cute.


Incidentally a new chapter was just released and an excellent one too.


Oh well maybe that would do it
I thought the oneshot was mostly interesting for its setting, which I suppose was probably what it was going for anyway so it's not a bad thing.
With that said, why long to be a eunuch? I can't remember any cool eunuches.


being close to mao > genitals


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The single highest rated manga on mangadex and it's actually pretty good

Thank you for your enthusiasm comrade
Down with the global bourgeoisie


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Varys was cool


Varys was a loser, dunno what you're on about. His entire plan revolved around bringing some crazy dragon slut back just so she could burn everything down apparently


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Reading shortcuts. It's 1-2 page long unrelated gag comics, with 1-2 running characters every so often. Most of the jokes are low brow, but pretty funny. It can get somewhat confusing at points because some of the jokes depend on you knowing whats it's parodying, mostly you need to know about kogals and the culture that lead to them.


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Reading cutie mutie. The main gist of it is that its one of those "Oh it looks cute, but is actually really dark" manga, does that have a name?, and the actual plot is people getting powers from sexual trauma. The whole shtick is so/so. The story has no grey areas so the overwhelming cuteness and edginess just whiplash back and forth creating an almost comedic tone.I think this might be the books first few chapters growing pains. The implied theme, 'Why do I have to suffer for the sake of others?', seems like it could be explored interesting in the kids backstories, child abused to have powers, exploited idol, honors student. If you don't like how this sounds just drop the manga because the scanlators didn't even finish it.


Pseudo-Harem is over. Last arc seemed a bit out of nowhere but the ending was nice and fluffy, if weirdly open-ended.


Disappointing as I quite liked Bokura no Hentai.


I tried reading this, couldn't get into it. The whole abuse secret society/scientist thing seemed gross to me instead of truly introspective or symbolic. It comes off as gratuitous and that's not a great thing when the subject matter is young girls navigating their abuse. It's not even particularly unique or intriguing. Maybe I just misunderstood what the author was going for, but… yeah.


Plot's kicking up and as always the author's really good at making fucking horrors out of nothing


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Kaguya's really moved along after I took a break from it
I can't believe he actually did it, first Tokyo Ghoul and now Kaguya.


Admittedly I haven't read Kaguya, but that's surprising to see


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I'm reading Melancholia, which is by Douman Seiman, who is the author of some of my favorite manga. It's a collection of short stories like Nickelodeon and it's great as expected. I'm particularly happy at the little references to Voynich Hotel so far, and I'm curious to see where all the "to be continued" stories go. I have a feeling they're going to interconnect.


It is a pretty good manga, specially now that it's fully translated. It had some pauses in translation and finished after years of no update so i lost a lot of information in the end.
Anyway i said that to tell you to read it continuously for the best experience.


>It had some pauses in translation and finished after years of no update so i lost a lot of information in the end
Ah yeah, the same thing happened to me with Oddman 11. I'll probably finish this one today or tomorrow so no worries there.


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I got a bad vibe from this work from the very beginning and I knew for sure it was irredeemable trash when I heard about the chapter where they watch porn. This seals it: this author wants a netflix adaptation more than an anime.


Do you care to actually name your objections? It's a rom-com about teenagers. Makes sense to me that they'd fuck, because that's what happens when teenagers actually get together.


Binged Yugami-kun ni wa Tomodachi ga Inai. Seriously one of the best manga I've ever read. Really funny stuff, it's hard not to get attached to the characters.


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Miko suffering soon… These three make such a good group. Didn't really care about Julia much before, but the last few chapters have made me appreciate her.


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Julia is mostly funny because of how out of the loop she is, but I like her significantly less than Mieruko. Then again that's probably because Mieruko looks like this.


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Having finally finished Oh! My Goddess I've been catching up on and finishing the big backlog of half read stuff.

I'm not sure where To You the Immortal is going but I can tell its going to end in some kind of tragedy.
Slow Motion wo Mou Ichido was great if you like Showa-era music, and the way they draw Yakushimaru really hits different.

Thanks for this one sushi roll, I checked out Voynich Hotel at the weekend and now reading Melancholia. Voynich Hotel hit a spot and now my heads gonna be in the clouds swimming with an ancient witch maid hotel all week.


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>Voynich Hotel hit a spot and now my heads gonna be in the clouds swimming with an ancient witch maid hotel all week.
I'm very happy to hear that. Getting people into my favorite mangaka is a good feeling.


Mieruko-chan anime announced


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Mangadex hacked and will be down for the next fortnight or so (estimated). It's batoto all over again.


Nice, but will the anime do the monsters justice?


I really hope it comes back in the same capacity as before
It's all so tiresome…


I just don't know why people do this
Clearly they're not actually looking for money so…?


I've been told I'm silly and old fashioned for tracking down and downloading the release from the scanlators. People keep pouring all their eggs in the same basket, and it always fails after a while. With an RSS reader I can simply subscribe to whichever scanlator that's currently releasing the manga that I wish to read (or hoard).


This is super smart, I'm kicking myself for not doing this already now. Is there an easy way to find scanlators and where they upload their stuff? I feel like I'm missing something, because I always struggle with this.


Well it's not like I don't do that, but it's annoying because sometimes I really don't feel like downloading 5000 images for one manga. Sure it's easily sorted, but that doesn't make it less cumbersome - especially if I'm only reading it once. Once I have it downloaded I don't feel like deleting it, but then again the hell am I supposed to do with it otherwise?


mangaupdates sometimes have links to the scanlators websites. If they don't, you can often find it by searching their names on google.


Thank you! mangaupdates seems like it's exactly what I was looking for



Note that on the scanlation pages in mangaupdates there's no link to their websites, only social media.
For the links you have to search their names in the search bar and then, on the results, next to their names will be their websites.

There's also this list:

Are you saying it's cumbersome to download the manga or that it's annoying to organize them?
If it's the former there are multiple ways to make it easier like Tachiyomi, Free Manga Downloader (FMD) (the fmd-project-team fork), HDoujin Downloader, mangadex-dl (there's multiple forks), gallery-dl, hakuneko and manga-py


It's just that I'm for some reason just psychologically opposed to having something on my hard drive that I'm unlikely to use much
I dunno man it's probably just the fact that manga is 4000 separate pictures while an anime of the same length is feasibly 40


Mangadex update, they need 2-3 more weeks
It's never going to come up again


Please don't store manga as image files. Zip them up, change the extension to .cbz, then use a reader. Boom, your 5,000 image folder is now 20 files. I'm honestly astonished that stuff like Tachiyomi doesn't do this automatically for each chapter.
If you are on Windows, CDisplayEX has a thumbnailer so you can see the covers in explorer. I prefer using Yacreader because it doesn't need to load the whole cbz to let you read (I keep everything on a NAS), but I keep CDisplayEX around for the thumbnails.


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Update for anyone who hasn't seen it yet. In short, if you have accounts anywhere that use the same password as your Mangadex account, you should go change those passwords asap.


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iqdb is down too




It's just giving me connection reset error, isn't it just a server issue? Or did they say they were shutting down?


The best thing that could come out of this is people learning to stop putting all their eggs in one basket. Setting up a website isn't hard and if you just want to post your group's projects, simple HTML works perfectly fine. No need for accounts, fancy web readers, IP logging, or anything.
The readers now have the tools at their disposal to setup their own one-stop-shop, like Tachiyomi.



It's hard to not have a frown for everything these days


Lol braindead what the fuck
100% guarenteed the people who run that thing are pedos
Also isn't Saucenao different from iqdb? I know they use essentially the same engine.


>Also isn't Saucenao different from iqdb?
Yeah but the bot does the same thing on both and so if IQDBmin doesn't respond fast enough, their host gets all these terrifying messages about CSAM and with no response they just shut it down.


I suppose yeah
Does IDQB not have any outward-facing communication? I'd have expected some sort of communication about this but a quick google search returned nothing.
I guess if their literal only way of communicating was on the site itself they'd be fucked.


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I mean yuki.la shut down and the admin went poof so I wouldn't be surprised if IQDB admin did the same. Maybe one day both of them will turn up again but that is too unlikely. Like >>2740 said, everything is collapsing.


>yuki.la shut down
Am I living under a rock
Since when


Since last month iirc.


Mangadex is sort of back up! They brought up some of the new api and the Tachiyomi extension works with it now. New content can't be uploaded, but you can read and download stuff again.


Mangadex update, the API's been mostly finished so I think the site will be back soon


>the Tachiyomi extension works with it now.
Do I have to set it up? The extension still doesn't work on my end


Well it's back up now, though without an explanation on the page itself


With that being said, desuchan and aurorachan are down now, though I haven't checked either in a month or so. Wonder if they're down or just having server problems.


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I started reading Menhera Shoujo Kurumi-Chan because I wanted to know who the girl in the hoodie was, and I started to completely hate her.
She is a complete manipulative asshole that projects her insecurities to the real world and goes over the edge if something doesn't go her own way. I'd understand if some hikki that doesn't talk with anyone would like to have someone as her in her life, but for most people I believe she would interrupt the way of life too much. Though that may just be the main attraction.
Still, I don't know if I should be posting this here since it's a 4koma.


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I decided to read it since you posted about it. I've seen the hoodie girl posted around the internet a lot too.
I agree that she's a bit much. Though I'm most amazed at how realistic the mangaka got at depicting crazy. I could easily imagine somebody like her existing in real life.
The little bro is great though.


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>I'd understand if some hikki that doesn't talk with anyone would like to have someone as her in her life, but for most people I believe she would interrupt the way of life too much.
I understand where this comes from, as someone who felt a reality shock reading this mango and noticing everything i went throught while in a relationship with a girl with issues alike, at the time i was hiper focused on making the relationship work because i was too focused on it being radically valuable, when i came to it i was already there for some years and theraphy was already having effects. Menhera would have more of chance on places where people are more conscious about mental health, people are not encouraged enough to seek pro help there


You used to have to login via webview in Tachiyomi to get the site cookie. If you weren't logged in before, you probably can't get in until they fix everything.


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I got up to Chapter 40 of Fire Punch and I honestly can't continue reading it. I know it's a shonen and I should've expected it, but it's so unbelievably juvenile I can't stand it. The reveal of the big bad and the intentions for doing what she wants to do are just facepalmingly STUPID. Why is this so acclaimed? It has some good bits here and there, but something that keeps referencing fugging STAR WARS out of all things shouldn't be so talked about.
UGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHH. I feel insulted. And I can only think that Chainsaw Man is more of the same. I need something that makes my neurons quake even just a bit while also having some neat action.


sushi roll, that anticlimax is literally the whole point. It's a joke.


Is the author supposed to be f*cking with the audience then?


I liked Fire Punch because it's dumb fun. The plot makes no sense and characters get killed off so quickly they don't even matter. (Like the naked underwear guy…? Huh…?) I can't even remember the main plot points besides: Agni eats himself, Agni gets lit on fire, Agni has a thing for his sister, Agni gets lit on fire, and then the end. I wouldn't read it for something to mentally chew on and the same goes for Chainsawman. The plot for Chainsawman is more cohesive, but it still heavily meanders.
There's probably a whole layer of satire and irony I'm missing, but I more or less got the same interpretation as you.


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Read Kino's journey and I completely hate it yet I understand the audience for it. The entire manga, and light novel I assume, gives off "art for people who don't like art" vibes. If you read nothing, but bottom of the barrel shonen Kino's journey would seem deep because it's your first time in contact with a manga trying something like that. To someone who's familiar with works like Kino the manga comes off as perfectly average at best and laughable at worst. Kino often reaches edgy 14 year old quotes level of bad.
I don't think it was a problem of the story, but the medium. They had to stuff all these "deep" philosophical quandaries into 20 pages, with half of them being set up, so it's completely obvious how they would simplify or cut out details.
The simplification is what really hurts the story. A society killing everyone off except one for petty crimes, a nation built completely on lies, and 'adult town' are all interesting plots, but they were written with the subtlety of a brick. Most of these stories come off as unintentionally hilarious and not well written adventures.
Kino's journey would have worked better as a completely abstract show that could fully revel in the unrealistic simplified nature of itself because it was a metaphor. As of now the manga is in a awkward phase between "realistic political parody" and "symbolic thought experiment" and both sides suffer.


What are your thoughts about the anime? Did they really make a 20 pages story into a full episode?


>>2897 I didn't watch the entire anime, but that's definitely the same feeling i got from it. Trying to put in big reveals and deep thoughts, but never committing enough for them to have any emotional weight.


It's pretty close to being that Majo no Tabitabi show a few seasons ago. All the actual philosophy is pretty deep, I think, or at least the questions raised are certainly deep; the problem comes down to the fact that the medium like you said close to prohibits actually engaging with it. The LN is technically a bit better about it, but both of them would've been better as collections of actual prose short stories or a non–chonological novel.


I do actually feel quite similar about the anime version, but the aesthetic and atmosphere of the show still makes me enjoy it a lot despite the shallow philosophy


Mangadex is back
But holy balls is it ugly as sin


I think it *looks* fine, but it seems to be a bit broken right now. They were really pushing back on the frontend so that doesn't surprise me. It'll take some more time.


Yeah it looks like everyone is stuck on the mobile UI for now because the desktop UI isn't done


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I've been reading Saihate no Paladin lately
It's by technicality an isekai, but it hasn't really come up except as a framing device for why he's fascinated by how dying works.
I really like how the author presents religion and also most of the characters, I feel like it's rare that religion in a manga is a force for good - not just literally in the sense of like, bam magic to kill evil - but also in how it gives people stability.

It's hard to describe it.


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"I'm a spider so what" it's OK. It has a strong start, but I started to skim at the later chapters. I'd have to say OK is a stretch because it's only comparatively good to the average bottom barell isekia. Even if it's the better of its genre it still falls into the "List of skills thats way to long", "deus ex machina skill level up", and a general vibe of "I must autisticly catoragize everything in this world". My main gripe in this work is less its quality and more how I read it a few years ago and liked it, but now I can barely stand it.


I haven't been following the latest chapters at all but I picked it up ages ago too.
I think the main thing is that at the time there was just too much fucking saturation of isekai, most of it low level bottom of the barrel trash, so anything with even a hint of creativity ends up looking like absolute genius. Look at Overlord, it's pretty much the exact same thing as any isekai except 1. the dude is a skeleton and kind of unrepentant Evil without being an edgy asshole and 2. he's got all his high-level friends with him instead of needing to find them. It's not good once you really start reading it, but it's better and that's all you really care about after a certain point.


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I finally got around to reading Wolf Guy / 狼の紋章, the image the old meme picture from the NTR scale comes from.

It came out in 2007 which is actually around when I guessed it probably came out (2007-2012), less because of the artstyle and more because of the excessive grimdark that seems to be the hallmark of anything that came out around that time. I don't really mind the grittiness; the manga heavily features the yakuza and insane gangsters so stuff like drugs or whatnot seems par for the course, like Holyland, a 2000 manga. The main issue I had with it is the gratuitous amount of sex and rape. It almost reminds me of Game of Thrones, the TV series not the books; the books were always poorly conceived gibberish, but the TV shows took it a step further by pathologically removing as much fantasy from the world as possible in an attempt to be dark.

With that being said I think the basic premise of the manga is fine. Excessively violent outcomes aside it does a fairly good job at actually developing its characters in some way, though not all in good directions. Also, the author's artstyle and some of the dialogue, while certainly meant to be dark, intimidating, or enlightening, is impossible to take seriously just because of how he draws it - see the image.

All in all I'd still recommend the series, though it probably isn't for everyone.


I like it. It's more of a fantasy story than a straight-up isekai for me. Although I feel like the dark tones that made it interesting at first have been lacking in recent chapters. Not that I think edginess for edginess' sake is good…


I think it was never particularly dark? No more than e.g. FFXIV is a dark game. It's got a miserable backstory but the actual storyline wasn't particularly out of the ordinary. It's grotesque but it isn't dark, if you know what I mean? The zombie brother under the fire was horrifying but the message was mostly upbeat.


Yeah maybe dark isn't the right word… But do feel like recent chapters have been too fluffy. I guess that was always an element of the story, but I miss the more serious vibe of decline that it had initially.


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On the topic of more serious fantasy/isekai manga, is anyone reading Bard Loen?

It's so refreshing to read a fantasy series that is more than just another isekai cheat powers harem romp. I mean, the main character is definitely powerful, but he still feels vulnerable (even if he does have a bit of plot armour). My favourite part is how the world and the setting feel a lot more plausible.


Was Bard Loen that one where he and the princess/queen loved each other but she married someone else and he was too late to even see her when she died?


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Read Soil by Kaneko Atsushi and its pretty stellar. It's a paranormal mystery about a oddball assortment of detectives finding what happened to a family that went missing. It's a slow burn mystery that keeps your attention by sprinkling some pretty great plot twists. All the threads in the end, no matter how bizarre, got tied up. One thing some people might hate is its one of those progressive mysteries, think I have to solve this murder case becoming I discovered an underground drug ring, so if you only want to see a cut and dry mystery case the later chapters will confuse or annoy you.
My favorite part about this manga is, ironically, it's nothing like a manga. The art style is western to the point a dull eye could confuse it for a batman comic. The characters and plot points don't lift anything from the standard incest of anime tropes. No yandre, no panty shot, no isekia just something unique to enjoy. A perfect choice to introduce your friends to manga


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