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 No.2104[View All]

Do you enjoy your job? And if you don't explain to me why.
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 No.4566

Software jobs are so easy and they pay you so much. I'm glad I followed my heart.

 No.4580

>>4462
A session of the Original Star Wars Battlefront II was not going well. I get a lot more done nowadays and manage my time more wisely.

 No.4595

>>4566
What kind of software job do you have? I keep hearing wildly different stories, where some jobs work you to the bone and make you do unpaid overtime structurally, and other jobs pay you easy money to automate your own job from home.

 No.4597

>>4595

When I say easy, I mean that I don't have to do blue-collar work. Most of my time is spent with politics or doing typing on a computer.

 No.4832

>>4580
Well, I suppose that is one upside. I should probably do the same to be honest, though I might try selling my games instead of destroying them.

 No.5493

I work at customer service for a mobile company in the US. I live outside of the US but ofc it's cheaper to pay 3rd world countries for workforce, isn't it?
Do I enjoy it? actually, I do. It's just what you'd expect: talking to angry customers all day. It can be hell, actually. Today I got a really rude and frustrated guy on the phone. But I managed to keep calm and even though he was really rude throughout the call and kept telling me I wasn't helping him, though I WAS, in the end he cooled down. Not always does this happen, and since I'm not american and speaking with americanese, I get a lot of racist jackasses.
But in the end I enjoy it, and I also enjoy the fact that it thoughens me in some aspects, givese me some endurance, and also the fact that I'm outlasting a bunch of other people who keep dropping out.
It gives me the money to keep studying chinese, to take my pretty lady out for dinner every now and then, and generally, to chill. Even though sometimes the shift can be really heavy, but I also have drugs so in the end, I can't really complain.
hbu sushi, do you enjoy your job?

 No.5499

>>2104
I work as a custodian at the University I attend, easy money cause I barely do shit and just listen to podcasts the entire time.

 No.6229

I was just filleting salmon in Alaska for a month this summer. Long hours, but good pay and very interesting conversations.

 No.6230

Software Engineer, mobile development to be more specific. It can be slightly stressful but never overwhelming. Any stress that does come up stems from deadlines from the higher ups, but it's never been anything we couldn't handle. Pay is great (a bit higher than average for my skill level, but a bit lower than our direct competitors who have venture capitalist money to blow through), can work from home (great if I need a breather from going to the office regularly), and enough interesting coworkers to keep things from being a bore. I'm satisfied with work, but I miss being able to go out and do things during the day.

 No.6231

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I work in a liquor store. It's pretty dull. It's not very demanding work, the worst you have to deal with is lifting boxes of beer and dealing with difficult customers. We can even listen to our own music over the store systems.

I guess it's just the repetitiveness that makes it dull. Before I started here, stacking shelves seemed kinda therapeutic. but it gets old fast. I used to have a few co-workers I got along well with, so joking around with them was quite fun and comfy. But they've moved on to other more serious work now. But no matter how many co-workers there are, I always seem to run out of things to talk about sooner or later, and maybe that would be the same at any job.

The pay is good, and the work is easy. I guess the scary thought it how easy it would be to live a comfortable life doing this job full time. Before I know it, I could be middle aged and having kids like some of the other full timers. I guess that kinda sounds like I'm looking down on their lives, and maybe I am a little. But somehow I don't think it's for me. Beggars can't be choosers, but I wouldn't like to spend the rest of my life in a retail store.

 No.6248

I work as an entry level software engineer at a Chinese robotics company. The pay is pretty good but like everything else is not too great :(

I feel like everything is getting in the way of me actually doing any work. We have mandatory end of day meetings every other day but since I'm the only software engineer at this branch I don't have anything to say, I just kinda sit and stare. And then I keep getting physically/mentally sick and I've been taking days off to recover but I can't work remote, so I haven't made any money these past few days and I haven't done any work in a week either.

It really sucks how awful and overbearing Chinese companies can be, these guys don't trust their workers at all. They all worship the 996 system and Jack Ma and middle management but I feel like I used to get so much more work done when I didn't have to deal with any of this bullshit and when my employers treated me as an equal. I think I'm going to look for another job soon, I wish I didn't have to because programming robots is honestly really fucking cool.

 No.6253

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I posted here a few months ago that I got a job a contractor. Since then, I've moved to a new city and now I'm working at a grill. It sucks. I miss my old job. I hate my new city, I hate my new job, I hate everything. I'm only here until I finish my degree, however long that takes.

 No.6254

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No. I work retail for a certain tech retailer, and all I get pushed to do all day is sign people up for credit cards or try to get them to buy a $200 a year service, that most people don't need whatsoever. But, it's a college job and once I'm out of college I'm going to be an accountant making $70k a year so fuck it I'll just keep dealing with it.

 No.6255

>>6254
You seem very sure about your future.

 No.6257

>>6254
I had a similar job. It was horrible, and the warehouse manager always pushed the sales guys to sell more services and useless crap, and a lot of that pressure spilled over to us working with support too.

So many students ended up with year long service contracts that included Office 365, when they could make use of the already free support the IT faculty give to every single university student, and the 365 ProPlus license their university provides for them. 200 dollars down the drain.

For certain types of people, it was an ok deal, but most don't need it.

 No.6260

>>6254
I don't want to discourage you, but working in an office sucks, $70K is not a lot of money, and the slow daily grind towards your death is not something I would look forward to.

In other words, slaving for The Man is no way to live. Either make your own company, or die trying.

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>>6260
Not him but since switching to a trade might be more complicated than expected I might have to go back to the wagie way of life to earn a living. I hated the living shit out the office life but I worked with someone who was quite contempt being at the place. I guess I'll have to follow the tao and fly over gossips, endless skype sessions and shitty management.

 No.6287

>>6260
What planet are you on? 70k is a really nice white collar wage. People that start business are usually way off that.

 No.6304

Senior software engineer here, 8 years in the field.
I fucking hate it. A single thought of having to work in this position again puts me to sleep.
I got burnt out last year and since then I can't get myself to even think of coming back. It's just sickening.
What is more sickening is that it's the highest paying position a regular mortal with no connections can get. Conditions are also phenomenal. When I search for something else I realize it more and more how important it was to be paid the amount I was paid, and how important the conditions I worked in were. All other places look like hell.
I can't abandon this specialty, and also I can't find anything else. My only other skill in life is my English knowledge. The country I live in is pretty bad at English, so private English instructors are very common. However, when I search for those positions or even go through an interview, they look like shit in comparison. It seems that if you really want to teach something to somebody, be it English or any other skill, you need to organize it by yourself. Otherwise you'll get stuck in doing this shit in an inefficient way or even fooling people just to get paid.
Back to the topic, currently I'm unemployed and I have no idea what to do next in my life. Perhaps waiting another year could prove fruitful in battling the burn out effect that resides within me, but it's so risky and uncertain that I can't bring myself to doing that. Come 2020 I will be looking for a job again. And at that, hate every moment of my life until I figure this situation out.

 No.6305

>>6304
If you are good at programming make something that makes money for you.

 No.6306

>>6305
That's a common advice and definitely an idea that crossed my mind many times, but in practice it's very different.
Firstly, programming skill is but a skill, it won't make you money. You can make a trending website while being a junior developer, because presentation matters more
Secondly, the rest of the process is the same as for any other field where you want to create something that would make money for you. Take book writing. You can be an excellent writer and compose a masterpiece, but what's next? You need social networking skills, some investments into advertisement, reviews, publicity, community, a discussion around you work, etc. Otherwise you're not selling jack shit.
Add to that the fact that it's extremely difficult to finish something. Artists and producers also face the same struggle, they left their work unfinished when the motivation is gone. You need to specifically "work for free" to finish a project. With the risk of it never bringing any profit, too.
That aside, you need to find something that people would consume. Something a 30yo indian dude across the planet haven't came up with and tried to develop. Some lotery-winning idea. It is black and white, your work either creates at least semi-reasonable revenue, or it doesn't. You also can't go for quantity, because over time dead projects just die. If your project hasn't took off over a few years and it keeps making you those $10 a months, it will die, even if you put more effort into it.
And even putting that aside, you're competing with millionaire companies who have professional developers, marketers, SEOs, and a huge budget to invest into advertisement. This makes the odds even lower.
There's many people who have lots of good projects, most of them put them on github as well, and they get nothing, even if their project is used and they have a patreon/something set up. A few stars, a few forks. But one of those forks could be microsoft, which creates revenue from that code right now and gives nothing in return. This is how most "masterpieces of software development" end up these days.
You have better odds at creating an IT piece as a SEO than a developer. Software engineer/developer is a monkey laborer, it ends there. A plumber can't sell pipes unless he's a salesman. A software developer can't create a profitable project unless he's an expert at everything-else-other-than-the-programming-part.

 No.6307

>>6306

Here is an example of something that is dead simple and people would probably pay for, but it was released for free.

http://notational.net/

I'm sure that you could come up with something like this. I'm sure that large companies would not attempt to create something like this because its scale is too small and it's not even in their world view of opportunities.

Here is another example of something that is dead simple, people HAVE payed a lot for, and it was created by a single developer (a Tokyo developer who quit because he hated the サラリーマン life).

https://inkdrop.app/

If you read any literature about startups or entrepreneurship, you will find that being independent simply means solving a problem that is too small, too obscure, or too new (or old) for existing companies to solve. You can even release an application with EXACTLY THE SAME FEATURES as an existing application and sell it by putting your own looks or philosophy into it.

However, being an independent software developer usually means doing things other than coding. Maybe you make some designs for the application or the website. Maybe you learn a little bit about content marketing and how to write a good blog post. Maybe you send some messages to writers who are looking to feature software like yours.

In the end, you find some way to provide some value to somebody and you ensure that you get paid for the value you create through some pricing model (e.g., Sublime Text, Inkdrop). Your product isn't guaranteed to succeed, but you learn a lot by giving it a shot. This kind of scrappy innovation is really what entrepreneurship is, making due with what you have to achieve a goal that provides value to somebody.

When you get more money, you can pay somebody to do things that you aren't very good at. When you build stronger skills, you can take on things that you think you excel at.

TL;DR: Big players in a market don't preclude entrepreneurship that can result in you becoming financially independent.

 No.6308

>>6307
I don't argue that there aren't such cases, my point is that it's very luck based and it's basically a lottery. You might as well start streaming on Twitch because it's the same kind of lottery where if you make it, you make it.
You listed a few projects and I can add a dozen more on top of them, but statistically those are probably <0.1% of all _finished_ startups led by 1-3 people.
I have worked in startup business as a senior full stack web developer, and I've met many people there who just hop from one startup job to another, because startups even if properly funded just never make it. You make a big buck as a developer there because of all the risks, plus they often offer you a share after the product has gotten popular, but it never gets popular. That's just how IT business is.
The advice to "just make something that will give you money" faces the exact same problem. It's literally the same market and in it you're also at a disadvantage, let alone the amount of competition.
Sure you can make yet another basic app or something like that, but at the end of the day it's not even the size of the project, it's just how lucky you are in getting it running. It can be your 10 year long monstrous project or it can be a 6 hour hackaton challenge project. They both have equal odds of becoming big enough to bring revenue.

This is just an unreasonable investment of time and money, is my point. If you like gambling then it's probably ok, you can keep trying to push your ideas and develop more stuff. But if you're into having a stable financial situation then it's probably not for you. I consider myself to be having the preference of the latter.

 No.6310

>>6308

You don't have to receive a giant windfall to be successful, and it isn't all about the money (i.e., autonomy is important to some people).

The better way to frame it is that you are expanding your scope to include opportunities beyond the traditional job market. For somebody, like me, who cannot handle the modern, agile, stack-ranked, open office, I don't think that looking into alternative opportunities is a risk. To me, ending my life in a conference room after the tenth meeting about code style is the bigger risk.

 No.6312

My job is alright. It's an office job doing administrative stuff for a local government.
The work itself is pretty easy, so I read or work on other stuff during work hours. The pay could be higher, but I'm not doing anything skills intensive, so I guess I would rather be paid less with less stress.

 No.6327

>>6312
I often fantasise about having a low-stress job, with lots of free time to indulge my hobbies. But maybe I'd actually find a more challenging career more rewarding than something that's just to pay the bills?
If they're so important to me, maybe I should make my hobbies a full-time thing. Of course, this might not be practical, but it seems rather timid of me to give up without having tried that level of commitment.

 No.6489

>>6304
why do you hate it, and what technology do you work, if I may ask?
I just got promoted to senior engineer and love my job (so far), although I wish I knew how to generate some side income.

 No.6494

>>6489
I just got burnt out of it pretty much, there's no objective sane reasons to hate it. The conditions are way better than for other positions, the payment is way bigger as well.
I'm a full stack developer, started out as a front end developer. Front: react, vue, angular; back: node, symphony (or a similar one), clojure. Something along these lines.
But it's not the technology stack that gets me, it's just the entire thing as a whole. Just sitting there, being nagged to constantly, being complained to constantly, redoing the same shit, idk. Last position I tried I had to go outside every 30 minutes or else I'd literally fall asleep, even if I had a proper night time sleep.

 No.6498

>>6494
Hahaha, I remember a guy that did that shit. He would just randomly fall asleep during the day, a narcoleptic or something.

Yea, I know what you're talking about though. You have it so good, but you feel that quiet desperation, some sort of first world problem.

For me, it's that build up of working really hard to get to your goal, sacrificing everything, yet finding out that, whichever way you spin it, it doesn't seem worth it.

You still have to show up to work on time.
You still have to put in those 8 to 10 hours each day.
You still have to work weekends on occasion.
You still catch flack if the boss can't see you in your cube.

In a since, it's like upgraded childhood, something that you hoped you might eventually escape through enough hard work. Yet, here you are grinding away on your next ticket and hoping to spend your free time kicking the shit with your old friends.

You love spending time with your friends.
You have a good time on most weekends.
You might have even found a girl worth your time.

Those 8 to 10 hours each day make you kind of sad though. How long can you see yourself doing this? In a sense, the reruns of each week are a kind of preview of the rest of your life, maybe the end of your life. Couldn't it be better than this?

Yea, that's what made me change. If I can take control of my future, why would I settle for this kind of situation?

 No.6501

>>6498
Wow, sushi, are you me?

I went through an uncannily similar line of thought when I got out of my first IT job doing tickets. Worked for a few weeks somewhere much worse, then switched to cybersec. Quit after a few months because it was indistinguishable from selling snake oil at a colossal scale. Felt like a downward spiral. Went back to uni to get my masters, which is where I am now. I can't muster the willpower to code anymore, and I'm still considered a "junior" in the industry.

Will probably get the paper and move to some other town. Don't know exactly how to approach a long term plan from here, and that's infuriating.

 No.6510

I also work as a software dev, for maybe half a year, and I dislike it.
The programs are uninteresting. People also dont understand how much faster programs could be, but that is a completely different topic.
I dont care about teaching people, its tedious, and they wont listen and even if they were to learn they wouldnt use the knowledge anyway.
So I just pretend to listen to them, shit out whatever code that has an "acceptable" level, and just try to pass the time the rest of the time.
Work conditions are alright though. I can leave early and from home sometimes.
But honestly I would rather do something creative and/or with my hands.
Building something out of wood could surely be more fun, but who knows.

 No.6514

>>6501

I wonder if anyone does. If they do, their situation and goals are almost guaranteed to be so much different than yours that advice doesn't apply.

Being creative in directing your life is hard work in itself, huh?

 No.6588

I don't, it lacks meaning.

When I tried to escape finance I ended up in digital advertising of all places, hilarious stuff that somehow made me grow as a person. But my principles forced me back to square one and a goal for next year is to switch jobs once again. (As time passes it gets more scary to do so and fall upwards)

 No.9287

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>>2104
Just bored. Was suppose to take holiday when the pandemic happened. So haven't had a proper holiday this year….

 No.12434

I've enjoyed every job I've worked. I feel like if you want to be miserable, you will find a way to be even in the best job. I've done retail, sex work, construction, office work, and been a paid videographer/photographer. The key I feel is to not let your work define who you are, but to be yourself and wiggle your way into situations where that puts you at a distinct advantage. Learn yourself sushi roll! If you know yourself you are limitless.

 No.12435

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>>12434
>sex work
ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

 No.12436

I work from home as an accountant and have barely any work ever so I'm almost getting paid to NEET. Part of me wishes I had a more fulfilling job where I can actually feel any sense of learning or accomplishment, but I certainly can't complain about playing video games all day. It makes me scared to ever look for a new job and risk needing to actually do work though, even if I'd like the salary bump.

 No.12437

>>12436
That's pretty common these days with all the zoom jobs. Part of me wonders if it wont become the new status quo, since it will obviously be cheaper for companies to have everyone work at home instead of renting a large office building. IDK how you do it though man, I had a job like that shortly during the pandemic, but I never got shit done because the urge to procrastinate and play vidya/watch anime was too high. Too easy just to put shit off when you aren't in an office space (imo)

 No.12439

>>12437
I definitely feel you on the procrastinating, I'm only surviving because of how small my workload is. It still takes me half the day to finish what I could probably have done in an hour, since I only work for 5 minutes at a time before I start screwing around. If I actually got a day's worth of work to do each day I'd be hopeless.

 No.12440

I get paid $16.50 an hour at Mcdonalds cleaning and fixing things
you tell me

 No.12441

I work two jobs and they're both relatively low-stress (Much more than the one I had in fast food, at least) but work will always be work for me, so I don't believe I could ever "enjoy" any job in that sense. Even if it is supposed to be the most fun and interesting job in the world, I will always prefer doing things outside of work.

 No.12442

>>12441
being forced to support a society I no longer identify with is the worst part tbh

 No.12445

I work as a Software Engineer, it's a pretty good deal. Rarely do I need to work super long hours, and I get paid enough to fund all of my interests. The most stressful time is when you're new to a company and you have to figure out all of their processes, architecture, etc. But then again, if that's all I've stressed over then maybe I've just been really lucky with where I've worked. It's also convenient because I can work from home, although I do miss hanging out with people while working in the office.

 No.12449

>>12436
I am an accountant too but I get pushed often to my limit and sometimes beyond. All I can say is that your post made me envy.
>>12441
What are your low-stress jobs? I really would like to change my job, I hate offices.

 No.13060

I'm a pizza man, I make pizza. Made it for a few different businesses, and I enjoy it. Not something I want to be doing for the rest of my life, doesn't pay well enough to be sustainable, but I do like my job. I listen to music and make the pizza all day. Someday I would like to be a bartender though.

 No.13061

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I'm a member of a small organic farming cooperative. It's pretty nice and I do actually enjoy the work, but the pay is awful and a lot of times I feel that maybe I should look into getting a different job just so I wouldn't be in such an economically precarious position, but I don't think I would enjoy working at like, a retail store or fast food or anything like that.

 No.13109

I do a side-gig as a technical writer.

 No.13543

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I bake.

 No.13544

>>13543
For a living? That's really cool if so. (not that baking as a hobby isn't!)

 No.13562

I'm on month 3 working for the local government's engineering division. I'm not an engineer, I was a sailor and offshore surveyor before this but I lost that job because I refused to go along with mandates. It sucked being gone for months at a time but I really miss that job. Miss the sea.
Now I'm home every night after a 1 hour commute doing work thst I barely understand and I'm not enough of a perfectionist for; I simply don't care if my measurement for an easement is 1 foot off. We'll see how long I last here.
>>13061
I always see the farmers on my drive home and think of how happy I could have been if I had some land to work.



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