/hell/ - internet death cult

>>326
The only thing making it seem bad is your own self, and your own awkwardness.
It's just some dudes, who probably share a lot of interests, meeting up and hanging out.
Whats weird about that? You don't have to forcibly drag chans into the way you interact, and then one could probably have a great time.
Drinking beers, talking about waifus or vidya; Seems pretty nice!

>>585
I guess you're right, but I feel like I have a separate personality or side of myself that I'm only comfortable revealing sushi rollymously

Is there such a thing as "creepy comfy"? If so, where can I find it?

>>590
I think uboachan would be your best bet.

>>591
It is close, but not close enough.
It seems I'll have to take matters into my own hands.

I'm so tired of everyone yelling at each other over minor differences in preferences and opinions. In general it feels like a big part of the internet has become much more hostile and ready to lash out, although that could very well be only limited to the sites I visit or due to me myself changing. I very rarely even dare to post anything because the general atmosphere of some places is just so off-putting. Combined with the fact that I've started like two or so threads in all my years of using imageboards, it's not like I'm very actively working on making them a better place either.

Reddit has improved upon some aspects of imageboards in my opinion, but for me at least it certainly can't replace them. I don't even have an account, although I browse a few subreddits daily. Accounts and especially the karma system have their ups and downs as already discussed in the thread, but for me it just feels too intimidating and personal.

May all of us one day find what we are longing for.

>>739
Reddit is kinda weird.
It's much better for consuming, but much worse for interacting with people. Despite that, it has a rigid profile system where you must have an identity.
Then the whole karma thing being used wrong just becomes social media tier.

I feel you though, I post less and less, and only ever made a couple of threads years ago.
I think the constant arguing is just because of how split the world is right now, politically.
Everyone has locked down on extreme opinions (myself included) and if both sides come into contact they will end up shitposting until one side leaves and the area is then the "territory" of the other side.
That said, people in irc seem to get along better than people on websites usually, which is interesting.

>>21
I'd read that, sushi.

>>590
I like this idea. Maybe I'll demo a new board for the site.

>>195
I'd also like a source for this, but, in particular, I'd like to see the actual data, since the numbers here are proportional (percentages of internet traffic), not absolute.
Are the big giants actively pushing users away from smaller sites?
Or are the smaller sites maintaining a small, but steady userbase, while the giants attract consumers who would otherwise not be spending very much time on the internet at all?
My guess is that it's probably a combination of both, but it'd still be neat to look at in more detail.

>>1270
I don't think he's going to respond

This was a very nice thread to read! Lots of good points and interesting discussion.
>>739
>I'm so tired of everyone yelling at each other over minor differences in preferences and opinions.
Is it just me or is it incredibly difficult to find a community that's inbetween this? Chan sites are usually the ones with a majority of rude people who enjoy disagreeing with everything and tumblr-like sites are the ones that are a huge hugbox where nothing controversial should be said.

I feel like chan cultures main drive is the sushi rollymity. it's less about distrust and more about not having a name or history attached to your post to distract from the content of said post. there are no reputations. there are no upvotes. there are no popular figures. what becomes popular or notorious is the content of the posts, not the people who made them. and that's what there is to gain from chans.

I think you've got the wrong idea if you want anything more than that. in jokes and memes are a result of culture, but not all cultures result in memes and jokes. sometimes cultures just like discussing things and that's perfectly fine. as long as you're just here for discussion, there is plenty to be gained.

>>27
Their IRC has me pretty discouraged about the site. It's basically just /g/ 2.0 in a lot of ways, which I find really disappointing since the show embodies a lot more and should be attracting specific types of people, which, I guess you can still sometimes find there in the sea of millions of tech people.

Some people might disagree with me here, but I think a huge thing about imageboard culture, and a major part of what attracted me to it, was that there was always a lot more weird people, for better or worse. So I think there is truth to the mentality that a lot of sites like these get ruined when too many "normalfags" find it. I notice on 4chan nowadays if someone makes a weird comedic post you get these typical "what the fuck bro?" type reactions, where as I remember that kind of stuff being typical or even the basis of a lot of the humor back then.

While I enjoy the sushi rollymity, this is the one aspect of being sushi rollymous I didn't like, it made it very hard to reach out to people you normally wouldn't find anywhere else (unless you literally just ask them to go on a IRC channel or ask if they have X chat client)

I also think since there are so many different uses, cultures, and mentalities that emerged out of imageboard culture now, that making new imageboards with focuses on different aspects of these is good instead of trying to recapture the "glory days". I think people should be thinking forward into how to further branch this out and evolve it to make new things, new cultures that will be remembered as their own glory days.

One of the things that started to piss me off in 8chan was the, uhm I dont know how to describe it, but it was the weaponization of the hobbies and the media we love
in /tg/, /co/, /a/ what have you sushi rolls started to clasifiy their favorite things as fascist or communistic or reactionary, etc. almost like they were trying to justify their enjoyment with their political aligment even if it was absolutely contradictory to their belief system.
I still remember that sushi roll posting trans anime shit in /christian/ just to troll the trad weebs there.

>>186
I think that many of them died. Yes, really I think they died.
Some of the greentext I have seen where of the most absurd things anyone with and ounce of self-preservation would not try. Like blender dick or the sour cream ecosystem, or the attempted/succeeded suicides/rampages.
Many of those cases it is unknown if the OP lived or died. What if they tried some crazier shit and actually did die? What if they ended up in the nuthouse? Kicked out of house and died on the street? None of it is far out of the realm of possibility.
I believe what made early 4chan so good was how you could find ANYBODY there. Now that privacy has become very hard to keep, that and the overall consolidation of the internet, has lead to 4chan just becoming a place for people to LARP like the old days, except none of them know how to do it, only how to act like how people did in greentext pictures.

>>1282
Can you elaborate on what you mean by /g/ 2.0 for someone who isn't familiar? As the other sushi roll pointed out, I find the imageboard lainchan quote interesting for the quality of discussion which you don't see on other sites. And are you talking about lainchan or arisuchan?

>>2298
Maybe they just grew up and moved on? I used to do a lot of crazy, stupid stuff for a gag when I was younger, but I don't have the same energy nowadays.

>>2262
yeah, its really weird. i feel like you can't just talk about hobbies anymore; you MUST discuss politics as well. while politics are part of everything (especially w/ media like videogames or music), i think that the political discussion has somehow become more important than the hobby discussion. threads discuss the jews that control the media more than the actual aspects of videogames.

>>2302
was there ever a time when /v/ genuinely discussed the fine details of videogames? i never paid much attention to it until around 2012, and by then it seemed to be overrun with stupid /b/-tier memes, R34 dumps and >tfw no gf threads stifling out any real conversation

>>2303
Spot on, was always a place for dumb fun. Then the userbase grew up, learned what politics is, and got political dumb fun.

>leave the webring as it was filled with drama with users from each board fighting each other
>drama from the webring and 8kok still lingers here
just fuck my shit up, I'll have to learn foreign languages just to get away from it at this point

I dream of a new imageboard to again take the counterculture by storm.

I only come here occasionally and only now stumbled on this thread because this board doesn't get updated all that often. I got into imageboards fairly late in the game comparatively (2009-2010ish), when that sort of "original culture" was dying. Frankly I got in far too young and it's probably poisoned my ability to socialize for life. But I still crave that old sort of "shitposting" that used to happen online. Nobody does anything for the sake of fun anymore.
4chan itself is dying, slowly. It's not the top dog anymore. And I guess the culture on the site seems to resemble the slow death.
If you make a thread starter that's a joke, it'll get deleted immediately. And what was once a sort of ironic meanness has now been turned into a cruel toxicity. It's not being mean for the sake of having fun and joking about, it's being mean for the sake of satisfying your own ego.
The Internet nowadays is a shithole. The problem may just lie in there being too many people online these days, in far too centralized places, none of which are actually good. The old specialized internet, where you find a small forum for your interest and meet a few people there, is basically gone. I have my own friendgroup that I've made online and they're basically what I stay in because there's nowhere fun to go.
I don't know if the old imageboard spirit could be revived. I think what's gone is gone. It's pointless to wait for some grand new imageboard that will rapture all the true old believers into some heaven. I think it's best to think outside the box and try to create a new imageboard that doesn't seem alien to modern internet users, while also keeping the same values (freedom of speech, fun for the sake of fun, etc) that made old imageboards great.

>>2328
I know exactly how you feel. 4chan is the same as Twitter, where the users make posts for (you)s similarly to how one tweets for likes and retweets. It's the same idea of posting content that is relevant and evokes a response from the viewer, so it's all reactionary bullshit everywhere.

>>2330
there's a kind of subtle yet significant difference in that 4chan is truly sushi rollymous while twitter requires an account/alias, as well as needing followers to have a significant effect. Twitter can also suspend you randomly without warning, meaning that all your follower gathering can go to naught. The result is that in addition to people stirring up shit with obvious bait (which is so obvious because kids these days can't recognize bait to save their lives), you have a shitty reactionary side and a shitty woke side. The reactionary side tries to gather other reactionaries by making fun of leftists, and the shitty woke side tries to gather followers through making incredibly awful, unnuanced takes like, for example, arguing that all anime is pedophilic because of neotenic features or something. Not to mention that you have a lot of normalfags, the fucking president, all mashed together into this weird hodgepodge that is either beautiful or awful, depending on the day.

>>2335
It's very hard to argue nowadays that twitter, or reddit for that matter, aren't superior places than 4chan.

Yes you can get silenced but so what, the difference in content quality is a joke and as >2330 stated it's not like they are being honest because they want those yous anyway.

When a site gets too big it needs moderation to retain quality, or else it happens what it happened to 4chan. Fortunately that means nothing at all for the future of imageboards, places that have a couple obvious advantages over regular sites like no signing up and the freedom that well used can provide things that no other social media site can match. They are very easy to use too, so I doubt the concept will really die anytime soon. (for all the bad publicity what made 8ch interesting was making being a board owner really easy, like a subreddit really)

Hopefully a new method emerges that doesn't end up in a popularity contest or shouting into a void, but it depends on the users really.

>>2338
I'll tenatively agree with you but only if you cultivate where you are: if you aren't careful who you follow on twitter you'll end up with a shitty feed that does nothing but make you feel bad, and reddit subs that go over >70k followers begin to rapidly decay into garbage. The brief stint where I actively used reddit turned me into more of a hipster than the entire time I used 4chan, as any decent subreddit I joined would slowly become flooded with users and vastly decline in quality

For a while I've wanted to start a textboard site for discussing literature, I frequent /lit/ on 4chan quite a lot, though I like the idea of something really niche and comfy like a textboard. I also think that the textboard format suits discussion of literature very well. Looking at the very few English-speaking textboard sites though, it doesn't fill me with very much hope. They're almost all completely inactive, which is unfortunate. Half of me thinks I should just do it as an experiment either way, a cheap domain couldn't set me back too much and I could always just scrap it if no one uses it. The only thing I'd really be able to count on is people from 4chan /lit/ wanting to use a niche site like that, and honestly I don't have a lot of hope in people doing that. Perhaps there would be a small number who would, which is all I'd like, realistically.

It will never go back to the way it was sadly, people on major imageboards take themselves way too seriously. Like a group of sushi rolls wouldn't raid habbo and claim the pools closed while making swastikas because it's just a really dumb but funny thing to do, it would actually be a dead fucking serious attempt to get their political opinions into the spotlight.

It's not just the politics either, the reason why pepe hasn't been replaced by a newer meme is because he isn't a meme anymore. He is more of a mascot now for being a "true" sushi roll, if you post something new it's immediately presumed it MUST have come from reddit because it would be outsider humour.

People are too desperate to fit in on 4chan or they identify personally too much with being an sushi roll, and you're mocked if you're not just repeating racist words, posting frogs and discussing conservative opinions about anything regardless of whether the subject is political in of itself.

4chan in its heyday was good because there was no particular identity associated with posting there other than that you probably enjoy anime. You literally couldn't be wrong by posting anything there, now it's very easy to post the "wrong" thing and get piled on by "I've been here since 2011, 4chan has always been political and always hated anime, now go back to reddit" oldfags.

>>2340
You're better off with a normal message board or something. Textboards aren't really comfy for such things, with a forum or a IRC you can create a more tight knit group.

>They're heavily censored these days, I find that the mods on these create-your-own-board sites really abuse their positions and remove far more than they should.

That has never been the case. Otherwise, textboard/imageboard quality wouldn't be so shit. "Free speech" is just open-season shitposting for idiots and racists. What we need is MORE moderation and BETTER moderation. Moreover, we need more community awareness and discussion of what quality content looks like.

>>800
Did you ever do so?

>>2335
>Not to mention that you have a lot of normalfags, the fucking president, all mashed together into this weird hodgepodge that is either beautiful or awful, depending on the day.
I feel like life has steadily got progressively more absurd since ~2014 due to shit like this as it's resulted in this slow merging of the worst parts of the interwebs into mainstream culture. What a bizarre world we now live in.

>>2338
Regarding imageboards 4chan will probably continue to dominate with much smaller imageboards like this one floating around unless there's another big schism to drive users elsewhere. With 8chan this was GG (and to an extent /pol/ harbor) - they forced over enough people that the site actually became viable for users who don't like "small imageboards".

>>2343
I'd rather have no moderation at all than what passes for moderation on 90% of websites nowadays. People have become so insulated in their little corners of the interwebs, there needs to be more free for alls where people can actually run up against each other and learn about opinions other than their own.

>>2359
You have to go back.

Happy to have been able to read this.

I wish i had discovered imageboards earlier, i feel like i missed out on alot of cool stuff.

I have been browsing image boards since 2017 or so. So saying im a little late is an understatement. And im sad being 4 years late to this thread (Im really new to this website to)

In general i feel like I have been born to late to see the wonders of the world. I feel like everything I like is in a continous state of decline. And that trying to step away from the mainstream. And find an unique place is just getting harder.

But yeah one off the things I instantly noticed when i started lurking 4chan/g/. Is that the place is devoid of any meaningful discussion. And from the start i felt like it was just a void (whole of 4chan felt like it was dead when I arrived (except for wg i still frequent there alot))

>>40
I think this is beautiful. I might make a wallpaper out off it cause i find it very inspirational.

>>2335
I disagree on one front here:
"(which is so obvious because kids these days can't recognize bait to save their lives)"

I dont consider it a lack of recognizing bait, but that its the opposite. Recognizing bait and then springing the trap or saying something funny or unique about it, is just more beneficial.

Cause if people see it and find youre remark funny or correct. Then they will share (retweet/xpost/share the link) it and you will get more social recognition for saying something funny.

Thats why imageboards are so great cause there is no incentive for being controversial for social recognition. Its just really youre opinion then

That just my 2 cents.

I have said my share I will now return to lurking.

>>2362
If you think people on imageboards don't try to game the system in the same way they do on other sites for the reward of interaction you're deluding yourself.

Chan casualties:
8chan
>el paso shooting
>christchurch mosque shooting
Endchan
>bærum mosque shooting
Meguca
>halle, germany shooting

I warned you lat, why didn't you delete /pol/ instead of just making it incomprehensible? No one even uses that board anymore.

Chan description:
>8chan is the home of qresearch, https://qmap.pub/
>unusual fringe and magick boards
>second most home of controversial conspiriacies imgboard beside 4/x/ 4/pol/ and other occasional 4/b/ disclosure
>home for egyptian, korean, and international boards for years
>gamergate, most other boards are 4chan clones (tv, v)
>still alive, pic related

>Endchan
>Librejp bunker, eventually becomes their main 'chan'
>aside from it, most boards are 8chan clone but less discussion, bunker for 8chan when it 504

>Meguca is a dedicated site for 4/a/ radio, puella magica madoka memes, and occasional /v/ or blog.
>the main feature is live posting.
>unusually enough, it was the most active fringe website openly discussing esoteric practices and also vampirism. Also coincides the fact that meguca is about 'magic'.

What I think should happen, make these 'reopen' under Vanwatech and make a loki site (because tor sucks).

The thing is, all of these is part of Albert Pike's WW3 blueprint, even if these individuals acted on their own.
Too much adrenochrome lets them simulate the future, thus giving them the edge to build it by their design - this is your enemy, you don't have to believe in what I say as whatever you may say or claim wil never change the facts.

This entire thread gives voice to my nebulous feelings. I feel loss, but then I wonder what exactly I lost. At the same time, I feel like a burden has been lifted from me. I browsed 4chan from 2010-2014, then 8chan until 2016. The change wasn't inspired by gamergate, but because 8chan had a furry board. I left when a user of that board created some system that bypassed the captcha to spam it with random posts from 4chan. The board had low enough traffic at that point that each thread was just a series of non-sequitur with a few actual posters who were surprised to still see each other there. It was an alienating experience. I could have used other boards, but I came to the realization posted in >>1381, that I wasn't having fun.

Looking back, I don't know how to feel about my brief six years. The negatives have already been enumerated in this thread: paranoia, self-loathing, political extremism, etc. One thing that sticks in my memory was how strange it was that a group of supposedly freethinking outcasts would place so much emphasis on conformity to their standards. It was simple peer pressure. There are so many examples I can think of. Perturbator did a Q&A on 8/mu/, and which went well until /pol/ asked if they could use one of his songs in an anti-immigration video, and spammed "cuck" for hundreds of posts when he said no. Then there was the buzz around the lunar eclipse on the 27th of September 2015 being the moment when the Jews launch their bid for world domination and/or the global economy shatters. It was ludicrous seeing people getting banned for even questioning it.

There were good moments, obviously. I met people I'm still friends with now. I used /fit/ to get fit, /loomis/ to take up art as a hobby. There was this one really funny chick who played through Otome games while typing in all caps to get everyone hyped up.

Ultimately it wasn't as big a part of my life as it was for most people, so it's tough to say whether I miss it or not. I don't use social media that much, and I think that's been good for me. I have a solid family and growing network of people I hang out with in real life, so I no longer have that deficiency of social interaction that imageboards once filled. Maybe it would be best to just remember the good and let things take their course, whether that be a return to the golden days, transforming into something new, or just fading away. I stumbled over this site only a few hours ago, and although I won't stay, I want to say that seeing an imageboard dedicated to comfy is heartwarming, and that you're all wonderful people who deserve everything they wish for.

>>2362
oldfag here
you didnt miss much

/g/ was always devoid of meaningful discussion
vid related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ihfoAxVRhw

Just a random rant…

I don't go back that far, I arrived in late 2009 / early 2010 and stuck to r9k the entire time. The culture on r9k at that time was fine, lots of nice people recommending me good movies and books to read, a lot of interesting threads from people around the world in different occupations and with unique interest. I heard about Wizards for the first time, not realising I would become one a few years later. It was really quite comfy back then for me, and I didn't mind the evolution of the board over time for the most part. If anything, my main problem was with tripfags who were always building cliques which would routinely disrupt normal threads by 2013 or so.

I've read a few threads from archives from earlier 4chan and it doesn't really appeal to me, though I guess I was never a weeaboo. I don't know, something about the way a lot of the threads were based around stories that were presented as if they were real, and plenty of people acted as if they were real, but were obviously fake - I can't stand that aspect, and that was present on r9k when I first got there. Things like 'The Tales of Fionn' just felt like a huge waste of time to me, though some people obviously got a lot out of it.

I just miss the sincere posting. Back in 2011-2013 I was struggling with a lot of depression, on my own without a job due to being bullied out of it, with social anxiety, etc - it was just really nice, it felt like some magical force had brought all these unique and genuine people together, and many of them were going through issues similar to my own, or even if they weren't similar - reading about other people's struggles helped give me perspective, and then there were still lots of fun, interesting threads and stories. It felt like I was getting to pry into all these hidden places, with sushi rolls claiming to work in interesting jobs or have lived through all sorts of unique experiences.

Then a lot of drama took place which I didn't mind at the time and made sense in the context, but by 2016 or so things felt very different, and things went rapidly downhill from there as far as i'm concerned, to the point that today its unrecognisable. It's just filled with irony soaked meme shit, it feels like a wasteland so I've managed to stop going there the past few years more or less. The worst thing is this feeling that all the genuine people have evaporated, I was probably already a little older than the average poster when I started, but where are these people now? Most seem to have evaporated. I think a part of it is just the changing demographics of the net, and the younger generation don't really see the net in the idealistic way people my age do. To me it felt like the internet was allowing, or was going to allow, us to really transform the world for the better, to relate more honestly and create dreamworlds together or something, to expose powerful lies in the world.

This is relevant to my feels: themidnight.bandcamp.com/track/youth

One thing that hit me about modern r9k when i paid a visit last year or the year before was seeing a bedrooms thread where all the bedrooms seemed to modern, affluent, filled with things. I don't know if this is just a generational thing or something but it really drove home how different things had become. Years ago I remember it being filled with struggling wagelsaves, NEETs etc who were practically on the poverty line. Not that I want to celebrate that, but it certainly felt like people actually had genuine struggles. Last year after the Christchurch shooting the ISPs in my country blocked 4chan. It WAS just a matter of using another dns server to get around things, but what felt worst about this was people's apathy, "oh just change to opedns" or whatever. Feels apathetic, especially when I was online in the second half of the 90's when the internet felt more like a 'wild west' type thing, and governments appeared to have no clue when it came to the internet and we were almost defiant.

>>2374
Reading this honestly made me feel happy. Im glad you found your own inner peace.

I started browsing back in 2010. I sometimes miss the culture but when I look back in the archives and stuff I don't really know what I'm actually missing. Maybe it's the nostalgia of the dumb edgy humor and being a teenager. But anyway, post GG/2016 chan culture is mostly just pol stuff, and I'm glad I grew out of being a racist teenager and liking that stuff. It feels a lot more freeing now to not just constantly look at negativity on 4chan/8chan anymore and instead to come to places like this.

>>2374
>I feel loss, but then I wonder what exactly I lost.
I have similar feelings. As addicted to it as I was at the time, I can't honestly say it was a good thing to be a part of.

I went on 4chan for around roughly 2004 to 2010, so I got to see the "golden age". And as fun as it was at the time, I'm certain that it fucked me up. Looking back, so much of the internet, not just communities like 4chan but also the internet personalities of the time like Maddox, was all about wallowing in negativity and picking fights just for the sake of it. It was fun to rant about anything and everything nonstop, but immersing myself in hostility for 8 hours a day had to affect my mind. I was enjoying wasting my time on threads whose ephemeral and fast-paced nature made me feel like I was always witnessing something unique. I felt hardcore for being completely unphased by pictures of gore and beecock, which was a dumb thing to be proud of. I was a high schooler when I started going to 4chan, and at that age, you have dumb ideas about what's cool. Thank god most of the dumb shit I said was sushi rollymous.

In an abstract, emotional way, I feel like '00s internet was the most fun I ever had and ever will, and that things will never be better than they were then. And maybe that's true, maybe I'll never look back on anything as fondly as I do those times. But really thinking about it, what did I get out of it? What are the hazy memories of that era of 4chan that I still carry with me, now that the hard drives I saved everything to then are long gone? Dumb memes about bringing back Snacks, firin lazors, and Dial Soap? Hours-long arguments about anime, video games, and the front page redesign? Gore threads and porn dumps? How much would I have truly missed if I had spent less time on 4chan and more time doing anything else?

Still, I'd be lying through my teeth if I said I didn't miss it more than anything. I have a longing that can never be fulfilled for a time when the weird was regular and no one cared who you were. I would gladly trade away the stupid bullshit of the social media era for the stupid bullshit of the era of imageboards and forums. At least it was a freer, less corporate kind of stupidity.

I guess it doesn't matter if it was good or bad, because it's gone now and it's never coming back.

damn, everyone posting in this thread should kill themselves

Perhaps it is fate then. After the exodus one of the first threads I landed in on 8ch was one of the same sort. Why chans have reached their end in the vastness of the internet. Now, six years later, stumbling upon this thread, I realize I have found the right place.


et mornië utúlien
sinomë maruvan tenn’ umbar-metta.

>>2604
stupid comic still kinda gets me ;_;

>>2602
I'll still contend that the modern web is infinitely more negative than the old. People were rude and edgy back then, but they usually didn't take it that seriously. Nowadays, everyone is dead serious about everything, and it's exhausting.