>>1187>It doesn't take long for hololive members to get popular.
That's true, they pretty much get autosubs from some people, but:
>Hell, most of the holoENs got over 200,000 subs within two days.
Don't you think HoloEN is kind of special? They were very, very much awaited overseas. They speak English, so their content can be enjoyed by people from so many countries. I know people who finally jumped into the vtuber hole just because they could understand what they say. Moreover, there's only 5 of them as of now - it's much easier to start when you don't have to check hundreds out.
Artia from HoloCN had many extra subs from non-Asian people just because she streamed in English as well. HoloEN also shows people they don't even have to be from Asia in order to become hololivers.
Besides, two HoloENs were vtubers before (let's say), one of them had 800k subs without having any kind of agency behind them.
>She got doxxed and people were calling her home phone to harass her. You don't really have to be a fan of someone to think that's a shitty thing to have to go through.
I agree. What I meant, though, was that a lot of non-Japanese people who weren't even her fans (there weren't even many clips translated) jumped on the "poor Aloe" train like they were their biggest fans from the very beginning.
This is the kind of people who go to the comment sections of Kiara's past persona's videos (just an example, doesn't have to be Kiara) and attempts to silence anyone who says anything about KFC by saying "DON'T YOU REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED TO ALOE??????? DO YOU WANT THAT AGAIN?????".
Aloe essentially doxxed herself by leaking her unprotected IRL handle, while HoloENs deliberately made nods to their past personas. It's a completely different situation, which these people can't understand.
Surely it isn't in good taste to just say "hey, isn't that Kiara?", but these attempts to police people are just stupid and counterproductive (they draw more attention).
>Like, I think the otaku type is just much more likely to want to become a vtuber in the first place.
Maybe so, can't tell. Then again, it's kinda true - the girl artists who put on amazing, inspiring work sometimes have stashes full of smut, which you wouldn't guess they do.
>Not really, trashy pornographic romance novels sell like hotcakes among a female audience. 50 Shades of Gray even became a bestseller.
50SoG was kind of a fad. I don't know how screwed up it was, I haven't read nor seen it.
I'd argue that reading multiple weird doujins (NTR, loli, egg laying
, futa, Euphoria-tier stuff) is much more degenerate
than reading a sob story about some guy who has "unconventional desires".>>1191
Yeah. 50SoG is softcore compared to loli stuff.