This is what I was trying to convey. Thanks, sushi.>>4331
It's the exact opposite of that, actually. My "baggage" is experienced by a huge amount of people on this planet, because they are systemic gendered issues. I bring them up because they are so widely experienced but simultaneously rarely understood. Here we are having a conversation about superimposing people's faces onto porn without their consent, and everyday people can't decipher why it might be detrimental to the people they are using.
For me, this is simple to understand. I don't wish my struggles upon you, but I do want you to draw upon your own struggles and experiences to help you understand what these people are experiencing.>>4332
I think I agree with the underpinnings of what you said. "Sexuality should not be demonized". That's totally true.
I'm not sure I agree with the way your discussion reframes the hurt experienced by those targeted with deepfake porn, though (or kids, holy shit)
Chiefly, while sex isn't something to be ashamed of, to be "grossed out by", or to hide and make taboo, the removal of said taboos doesn't inherently also remove the deeply emotional and personal component of sex and sexuality.
Giving people the choice to populize or discuss their sexuality is great, and while it can be *reduced* to a transaction, it is not a transaction by default. "I make you feel good and you make me feel good" undermines much of what happens to the body and psyche during sex. It is an exchange of trust, sometimes it is an exchange of power, and often it is an intimate process of emotionally understanding and connecting with another person.
This is why when someone oversteps that boundary, when they do something we aren't ready for, when they don't listen to you and they do it anyway, it's a crime. It has the capacity to destroy people. It regularly does. (Kids do not have the vocabulary to understand these experiences nor the base of experiences. Adults placing them in sexual situations robs them of autonomy they don't yet have.)
By accepting this, we do the opposite of reducing people to chunks of slate. We give humanity to sexual actions, and we make it possible for conversations to be had about how to experience sexuality healthily, the same way we talk about managing and embracing our sadness and happiness.
Sex is personal for people. "It shouldn't be personal, I'm gonna share porn of you anyway! It's just a video, right? No impact on the 'real you' at all" is blatant disregard of a person's humanity. That is, blatantly, objectification. You reduce them to an object for your use.>>4333
I think this a weird thing to do *personally*, but yeah, I don't have the right to patrol if you use deepfake video tech in your personal life to construct this video and never share it online.
And if that guy is going to make a doll in the image of his dead wife, again yeah while I might think that's weird as fuck, maybe it's the only thing keeping him together? He doesn't need to tell anyone about it, so great.
But that's not really the issue at hand here. People fulfill their fantasies in private all the time. Things change when suddenly these videos and images online, they are of *you*, and thousands upon thousands of people are suddenly watching them. Do what you want on your hard drive in your own time, but keep it to yourself when it comes to the lives of real people.
I wish new posters would spend a little bit more time on the boards before dropping a fat one. It's always possible to make a post *in* hell, after all.