/hell/ - internet death cult

Can you elaborate a bit?

>>1152
Source on image? It looks comfy

>>1153
The feeling has passed now, its hard to describe but its almost like i had a big test that would determine how i live the rest of my life. Like a metaphysical entity would change our persivible reality. I know it sounds silly but i couldnt shake the feeling and tried my best to put it into words.

>>1154
Its from the YKK OVAs, my personal favorite iyashi-kei anime

>>1152
>>1155
I think I kinda get what you are saying. I'll describe what happened to me and how I handle it.

I quit doing drugs after a really bad trip while I was on nbome. After the trip I had panic attacks almost every day, specially if I smoked weed. My doctor told me I had a minor PTSD.

Every panic attack was similar and was triggered by a memory o similar situation I remembered from the trip. I feel like I had met god and discovered my life was a fractal, that I knew what was going to happen next but couldn't change the outcome.

I suffered that one and a half years. After that a friend told that "if you feel confused and lost then you aren't getting crazy, the problem comes when you think otherwise", that helped me to overcome (more or less) the problem.

tl;dr: If you're asking yourself if you're crazy you're prolly sane. But visit a doctor/psychologist if it happens often.

>>1152
I too feel impending doom, but not on a metaphysical/philosophical kind of way. I just think our civilization will soon collapse, it's based on growth but our planet can't take it anymore. There are a lot of people to feed and resources are getting scarce, also pollution and climate change are a problem. I think the world is going to get uglier, less habitable, less breathable and so on. The only hope I have is that this situation will open the way for a political revolution that will end capitalism and the state.

I hope my post isn't too uncomfy for this chan.

>>1157
I concur.
The world has an easy surplus of food right now thanks to mechanisation of agriculture, but we've all seen that graph of human population growth. And what about when the resources that support mechanisation run out.

The modern world is able to function because everything relies on everything else, but when that collapses, and the facilities that permit such high populations and densities of living go with it. It's going to become a cull the likes of which the world has never seen.

Pretty scary stuff honestly, I try not to think about it.

>>1157
>>1158
I have good news for both of you. Please take this not as an argument but as a comfort.

To sum it up, environmental crises have been greatly exaggerated by journalists and certain other alarmists for the sake of selling news and green products. Panic and doom sells. It's an exploitation of human nature, and I fell very deeply into it for years just like millions of others.

There's a lot less actual science involved in environmental hysteria than you think, and a lot more sensationalism, mass delusion, profiteering, and a type of apocalyptic faith tantamount to religion. Another factor is how many people who subscribe to this environmental hysteria are the ones who have the resources to make compelling documentaries and weave fantastic narratives using poetic imagery. It's very easy to get swept into.

That's just an brief introduction. Michael Crichton did a much better job of explaining this than I ever can, so I recommend you read his explanations and listen to his interviews. He was one of the more famous and reasonable environmental skeptics.

Remember I'm not here to argue. I even still consider myself an environmentalist of a sort. I just want people to know they don't have to worry themselves into depression.

I know this is probably too confrontational to be comfy, but I am merely trying to bring the comfort of relief, so I won't say anything after this.

>>1159
This reminds me of when I was a child in infant school.
There was an assembly one morning where they were trying to make us save water. Turn off taps when brushing teeth and that sort of thing.

They basically did a presentation on how >we have this many water plants and they produce this much water, if we use too much the water runs out.

It left me absolutely fucking terrified that we were all going to die in the next decade.

Of course now I realise that they can just build more and better water plants, but man did that fuck me up as a kid.

>>1152
I too feel this sense of impending doom.
I used to try to not think about it, but now it's gotten to the point where I want to solve it
Yesterday I did LSD and I came to the conclusion that I need to do more soulsearching before I can "fix" anything

I hope you'll feel better soon, sushi

>>1156
>if you feel confused and lost then you aren't getting crazy, the problem comes when you think otherwise

There's a lot of truth in this. When someone goes mad, we don't notice until they stop reconciling their beliefs with reality. But a sane person can become depressed and nihilistic when they overthink things like this. Just don't let it keep you from searching for meaning and beauty in life.

>>1160
The whole fresh water conservation thing always baffled me. I don't understand how people can forget how rain works. And of course there are concerns with the environment, but it seems like environmentalist organizations are looking for money and influence.

>>1159
>>1157
As >>1158 said, our society has become increasingly dependent on technology and centralized agriculture. We transport produce around the globe on a daily basis using complex technology and massive communications networks, and yet huge amounts of people don't have the resources to take care of themselves anymore. With the instability in the world right now, it feels like we're tearing out jenga pieces, and it's only a matter of time before it all falls down. It's so volatile and wasteful; I can only imagine how much more efficient it would be if we just grew our own food.

I think the best thing that we can do for the world is to improve ourselves and become more independent so we can help people near to us do the same. I do still have that sense of dread, but it's more like a drive now. There may be suffering and hard times ahead, but I'm not scared. If we work together we'll be strong enough to make it through the worst of it.

I hope you're all doing well, take care of yourselves sushis.

>>1162
>It's so volatile and wasteful; I can only imagine how much more efficient it would be if we just grew our own food.
I am hesitant to continue this increasingly political thread, but I am somewhat puzzled by this idea. Subsistence farming is not efficient at all, and most people who still do it are in quite miserable conditions. It would be incredibly hard to grow a plentiful supply of all the foods we need to have a wide diet. We would also have to revert to primitive farming technology; combine harvesters and other equipment are way too expensive for individuals to use on small plots. Most Western countries are not self-sufficient in growing their own food anyway (not sure about the US though) and we'd have to keep importing or the population would have to shrink drastically. I would also add that 'civilisation' of any form, whether ancient Sumeria or our current Western one, depends on certain people (kings, scribes, architects, etc.) being free from growing food to survive to do other valuable things. Maybe I have you wrong, but I don't think a return to subsistence agriculture would be a good thing.

>>1163
You're right, bad choice of words on my part. It's not "efficient" in the sense that you can feed more people with fewer resources. I do think it would be logistically more efficient to reduce the amount of transportation we use though. I didn't mean to imply that all forms of large scale farms need to go, if that's how it sounded. We would definitely be worse off if every person had to farm their own food, I just don't think that every super market needs to be stocked with produce from around the globe.

>>1163
This is true. We have all the good things we have because we don't have to feed ourselves. There's nothing you can do but hope the food keeps coming really, which is what's so scary about it.

Everyone becomes an expert in something and does it for each other, and hope others do theirs for you.

Also the US is easily able to feed itself. I read about it somewhere but since forgot the details but the mid west alone produces a huge surplus of food and is the worlds largest food exporter. Followed by, believe it or not, the Netherlands which has about 45% of the US export value.


That said, I think it would probably be a good thing if a slight knowledge of growing food was more widespread. Just in case.

>>1164
>I just don't think that every super market needs to be stocked with produce from around the globe.
The simple answer to that is that the places which allow for various types of food are few, and the development to exploit it to the full is even more rare. Lots of logistics is usually a sign of efficiency in production. You pick a place that suits something, get good at it then send it where it's needed. It's the same reason you have one hospital filled with experts in one place, then bring the patients to it.

>>1165 >>2497 >>1163 >>2492
I don't like the idea of shipping food all over the world, it seems wasteful. But I do appreciate the benefits, done well it definitely allows everyone to have a better quality of life.

What keeps me comfy at night is doing my little bit, buying local stuff whenever it's available, growing a little bit of my own food.
Whilst the economics of growing your own staples kinda suck, there's plenty of things you can grow that are really rewarding. Fruit and herbs are my favourites because they often suffer the most from long distance shipping, a fresh tomato grown by a beginner in the wrong climate can still beat anything from the supermarket.

Sometimes I feel like OP, that no matter what I do it'll all fall apart in the end. But working to make my little bit of the world comfier for everyone helps to keep my mind off it. I just do my bit and hope everyone else does theirs.

Another thing that keeps me going when all seems dark is the idea of feedback. Fedeback in society often seems positive, people just go with the flow, they see good they do more good, they see bad they do more bad. Sometimes it seems like for that reason we're just a few really shit days away from a downward spiral into eternal shittyness.
But the fact that humans are still around and not doing too badly suggests to me that there's some strong negative feedback too, and that's where I put my faith.
On some level, almost everyone wants things to be better and has the capability to make them so. Today, they might not care, but the worse things get the more motivated people are to fight it. Opression breeds resistance, adversity strengthens resolve, and as long as the knowledge remains that things could be better, they will eventually get better again.

Remember rolls, the smallest act of rebellion against a hopeless situation can inspire a whole counterculture. Vive la révolution confortable!

>>1166
Woops, I completely misread >>1152 and got a little carried away.
Hopefully there's still something worth reading in my crazy tired person ramblings.

>>1167
That was interesting enough to remind I should buy or find the necessary to grow herbs to bring more joy into my food.

Your feedback part is interesting, but I'm already too drunk to add something of value about it. I can fantasize about hermit life and hide it all I want, I'm an empty shell without the validation and recognition of the few people I adore

>>1152
We all have our own psychic plane. My message to you is not happy or sad, but I see that I can drop my anchor in fertile ground.

I see how you can transcend. Adjust your plane automatically by slowly cleansing the trust in unity from your veins. I know what I'm talking about, because I have experienced the trembling and awakening.

I have no right to drag others into my river, I oblige no one to follow me and everybody practices in his own way. But the door remains open to the possibility of wallowing in cushions and good things to eat.

>>1152
I *feel* tired. Everything is dross.