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 No.5865

>post about my research projects in academia
>5 likes
>friend posts a selfie for the thousandth time
>it even looks like their previous selfies
>20-50 likes
why

 No.5867

I think the honest answer is this: most people scroll at great speed through their Facebook feeds. Your posts take time, perhaps whole minutes of their lives, to read and understand. It takes less than a second to recognise a face in a selfie and to understand, probably subconsciously, that this person is a friend and so 'deserves' a like. Clicking the like button takes another split-second, and it's all done in the blink of a dry eye.

On another note, why do you care how many likes your Facebook posts get?

 No.5870

>>5865
Sushi, the general population is in an intellectual decline and its been this way for decades now. People are less concerned about the future of the society and are more concerned with keeping up with their social circles on social media. Personally, I would get off social media completely. It's designed to take in your attention and steal your time to make a profit.

 No.5871

>>5870
m8, that's how your average person has felt for all of human history. People have always been petty social animals with no interest in intellectual development.

 No.5873

>>5870
this tbh
If you want to share interesting things you've found start a blog.

 No.5880

>>5870
Not saying your wrong about social media, but you might be like me, I have uncommon interests and just don't get along with others that well. I think it would be nice to get along with people though, so I'm trying not to hate normies ree.
But people are not getting dumber. Check out the Flynn effect.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect

 No.5883

>>5865
You would be better off not using social media, listen to the others.

 No.5884

>>5870
There was a time when the average person was illiterate, I doubt people are getting dumber.

 No.6048

>>5880
>>5884
You do make a good point. And you are right, I do rub people the wrong way (…I try not to.) I just hoped people would be able to appreciate hard work, and it's frustrating to see people ignore it in favor of "selfies." I guess I really am young and idealistic. I don't want to see humans so easily manipulated by the social sway of things, but I guess that's how things are.

 No.6049

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>>6048
There could be a difference in numbers, first and foremost: how many friends do you have, compared to them? Especially people that regularly use social media.
It's cost-free and easier to like a new selfie than a wall of text. Pictures are easy to notice when scrolling down, and are pretty uncontroversial: you don't need to think hard about it. Just that will mechanically increase the number of interactions, regardless of the era or country you're living in.

I don't think there's any value in posting such material on social media. Most people typically won't care about the things you're researching, and expecting them to pat you on the back for accomplishing stuff they're not interested in understanding seems more like you're trying to sustain your ego than anything else.
I do understand your point, though; I think it's just a bit misguided. Facebook isn't appropriate as a platform for your kind of content in the first place, and I'm pretty sure their algorithms promote pictures and other interactive media over text posts, contributing to the effect you're complaining about even more. It'd be better to publish your content somewhere people will be actively looking for it: a personal blog, a mailing list, a dedicated forum, or even better, IRL meetings and conferences related to the subject matter.

I wouldn't expect other people to be interested in my landscape photography endeavors at a seminar on the latest advances in nano-materials engineering or East Asia anthropology. You shouldn't expect people looking for some distraction (and, let's not hide it, that dopamine rush from a carefully engineered interaction process) to be interested in thinking hard about things. They probably have other mediums for that.

 No.6051

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>>6048
Maybe you could learn to like a good selfie, it's a little like you're there with them even though they might be alone right now, and it's a lot easier to understand and appreciate than a research paper. Did you say "I worked hard and got my paper published and I'm really happy about it" or did you dive into jargon "It turns out this form of shape viewed geometrically has the same properties as entangled probabilities between phenomena!"? The second is much more fun to geek out about, but it's not relatable at all. The first is appropriate for a broad audience. You need to think about who is receiving your post.
Seconding what >>6049 said.

 No.6053

>>6049
>>6051
While I am not OP and I haven't posted any research I think I understand your point. I personally don't post on any social media (except for sushichan) so I guess this is an eye-opener as to why people are on social media in the first place. I have a facebook so I can keep up to date with people's lives and can ask them about it if I ever see them in person (like in OP's case maybe you're working on neat research.)

But now I understand others have different reasons for using social media. Maybe its just to enjoy posting a selfie or two, or to like other people's photos. Objectively I can't say there's anything wrong with that. It's a matter of different intentions I think.

 No.6054

>>5865
>only 5 likes
Life isn't a popularity contest, even though sometimes it may seems like it is. Those 5 likes you got? I'm willing to bet they're way more valuable than any on that dumb selfie post.

Why don't you live your life on your own terms? To quote a certain great man's wife: Why do you care what other people think?

 No.6058

>>6054
>Why do you care what other people think?
Life must be very easy to live if you’re not insecure.

 No.6063

>>6058
Why be insecure? Hmmm you should understand that there is nothing we can do about what other people think, trying to change it is way to hard and you dont live for yourself, it so applies with the people who hates, thinking in that person will not harm it, is like wishing death to somebody while drinking poison

 No.6065

>>6063
>just stop being insecure
wow thanks I'm cured

 No.6066

>>6065
Try not to exclude you and your own behaviors from the issue.

But to touch more on the point - "likes" on a page are just a garbage metric anyway. It's a reward you get from someone taking half a second to impulse click a button. You should be more concerned about discussion/commentation on your work rather than "oh someone decided to stop and press a button".

I used to be the same way in the sense that I judged my self-worth by online metrics. What finally made it click for me to finally realize it was an effort in futility is that realization that Facebook/Twitter/Insta are just really shitty imageboards/forums with more identifiable user accounts.

If I wouldn't value a poster's opinion from 4chan, then why would I value Gregg's (divorced, 3 kids, uneducated, angry, and talks on speakerphone in public) opinion?

You need to find your own value in your work. If that hinges on OTHER people being proud of your work then find the right people to put it in front of.

 No.6069

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>>6054
>Life's not a popularity contest
You're right in the sense that it shouldn't be, nor should we worry about it, but I definitely think it is. Just about everything we do is related to how well known you are.

 No.6070

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>>5865
From an observer's standpoint, liking someone's selfie has more "weight" behind it. Research projects may help humanity in ways not yet explored and are hugely beneficial for everyone, sure, but someone's selfie is a snapshot of someone's "self".
If you like someone's selfie you're affirming that person as an individual, albeit in the most watered down arbitrary way possible– but if you like a research project, you're just liking a research project, not the individual behind it because that's not the subject at hand.

Also people are lazy.

 No.6072

I think this post says a lot about our society, sushi!

 No.6074

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To be fair even IRL the vast majority of people won't care about the progress of someone's academical researches beyond what can be summed up in a few sentences. AND social media like Facebook are mostly a game of flexing and flattery. It doesn't mean nothing genuine in what people share can be found but it just is, it won't get much attention if, if I can express it like this, the narcissistic and relational charge of the content is neutral. imho desu

 No.6077

>>6058
>>Why do you care what other people think?
>Life must be very easy to live if you’re not insecure
I am actually very insecure what other people think about me. So much so it drives me kinda insane. I have a lot of issues to deal with but I always tell myself what Arline told Feynman: What do you care what other people think?

That quote came from Arline Feynman, Richard Feynman's wife who had TB at the time. They both a little shunned(?) from starting a relationship and getting married, all because she had TB. What would young Richie do with a girl like that? He couldn't even kiss her on the mouth! I think Arline's parents even said "We understand if you'd rather not court our girl"! (or something along those lines.)

Now Dick didn't really care about any of that because he loved her to bits, but he did care what other people thought of him. Sometimes Arline had to tell (or remind) him "What do you care what other people think?".

If only we could all be as free as Feynman.

I know it's hard, but once you let go for just a little bit? The freedom is breathtaking.
t. guy that's still learning to let go

 No.6078

>>5865
>academia subject
>not a lot of replies on facebook
Maybe they're not all as smart or educated as you, OP?

>>6069
What'd that popularity of yours every buy that a little PR couldn't?

 No.6081

The fact that this bothered you at all, and that you checked and compared the amount of likes on posts, is evidence enough that social media is poison. You shouldn't be using those sites, or if you want to keep using them, you shouldn't worry about how many likes or comments or whatever your posts on there get. Instead try to use it to connect with the people you care about.



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