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 No.5579

Does anyone here practice Taoism?

Recently I've read up a few things about it and found it very appealing. In addition to that I've watched a few youtube videos from the dude who lived in the mountains with a Dao master and how it affected his personality.

I find the philosophical concepts very good. The "mindfulness" thing helped me to overcome social anxiety partially. Also the entire talk about nature made me want to go outside more, which was a completely foreign concept to me a year ago.

Here's some of the teachings (paraphrased by me) which I found cool and really useful:
>eat until you're 80% full
I thought that it sounded like some dumb diet for single moms, but it really makes you feel better in the long run. I didn't notice much change a few weeks in, but after a few months I found out that I no longer feel heavy in the stomach after eating, don't feel sleepy and have my sugar levels much more stable.
>focus on being "right now"
This is the "mindfulness" thing. When you feel anxious or something like that, switch all of your attention to the "current" moment. Focus on the fact that you live right here and right now, not in the past or in the future. You're a human being who functions and interacts with the environment right here and now.
>appreciate being a part of the nature's natural way
Everything around you naturally flows and lives on its own - the insects, the animals, the plants, other people, etc. You're part of this flow. Act in the most natural way in order to preserve the flow. Appreciate the ecosystem you're a part of.
>for every "yin" there will always be "yang"
The famous "yin yang" thing is part of the daoism philosophy. Put short, there's no yang ("light") without yin ("darkness"). Without bad, there's no good. If you only want good, you'll eventually have to pay the price for it. If something bad happens to you, it means that good will follow.
This concept is applicable to many more cases, but I think it's a very good mindset to have.

If you're interested in more, try reading Tao Te Ching (Dao De Jing).
I recommend this version: https://terebess.hu/english/tao/DerekLin.html
Here's a video from the abovementioned channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kij4kKSGzCE

 No.5581

>>5579
good writeup, sushi roll. i think everyone can learn from taoist ideas. won't make this a blogpost, but i'm currently homeless and one of the few things i keep in my bag is my copy of the tao te ching. everyone should read it. wouldn't be surprised if others here are already involved with taoism or would be particularly interested in it.
chapter 11 - using what is not - has always been my favourite. it just flipped my perspective of everything upside down when i first read it, and in such a short piece of writing!
i've thought for the longest time that, regardless of if you subscribe to any particular religion or none at all, everyone should read the tao te ching and the book of ecclesiastes. everyone can and should learn from them.

 No.5733

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I've read the tao te ching some years ago. Thankfully it's not that long. However the shortness comes at a price. I found it rather cryptic. The general idea of Lao Tse was to simplify things and to calm the waves of life, as I would phrase it. On one side that means to chill the fuck out, as everything forcefull will face greater resistance, while smooth sailing brings you just as well to your destination, even though it might take a bit longer.

There where other parts I didn't understand at all and some parts I liked but forgot. Guess, I'll have to read it once more.

 No.5737

>>5579
I've been suffering from depression and possibly many other mental illnesses that I need to get properly diagnosed for a long time now. I have to say I'm interested in the properties of Taoism for those very reasons. I'm trying to enter a new chapter in my life to say the least and perhaps the teachings can help my chaotic mental state to ease and be calm. But I have had a lot of bad with what feels like nothing good and if my "yin" is overloaded maybe just maybe I'm in store for a lot of "yang" for my future.

 No.5741

I quite like daoism, but have turned away from it as a higher guiding principle for reasons pointed to by these quotes and much of the writing by Eliezer Yudkowsky.

"Many great and wise Air Nomads have detached themselves and achieved spiritual enlightenment. But the Avatar can *never* do it. Because your sole duty is to the world. Here is my wisdom to you: selfless duty calls you to sacrifice your spiritual needs and do whatever it takes to protect the world."

"Dolphins can live in balance with nature, but in doing so they can never reach the stars and survive the death of our sun"

>>5737
One think I think helped me with my emotional state more than thinking of yin and yang was a philosophy I gained from learning about weightlifting and growing plants. The focus on gains.

In each day you check on the plants. If they are too dry you water them, and otherwise you do nothing. You can't water them extra to make them grow faster, that kills them. You need to maintain conditions that cause growth, and then you keep growing. Not a focus on refining a balance, just keeping things balanced enough, enough of the time that growth continues.

I find this way of thinking both adds responsibility to, and relaxes the focus on the current moment. What's good in the moment was built in the past, and your responsibility in the moment is to maintain growth into the future.

I do need to lampshade how much this crosses with the capitalist ideas of growth through consumption. Ideas found in economics can be reasonable, but a lot of the time seem to sacrifice long term growth (or survival) for short term growth.

 No.5742

>>5741
I was told that I need to start exercising to help my depression. Growing plants is a new one though. I might have to just give that a try whenever I can.



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