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I'm a peaceful and squeamish guy. I even feel sorry for killing bugs
even so, I took an interest in the army and the navy (I'm not a yank). there's something so cool about their disciplined and hard life, how those institutions can whip people without courage, without a purpouse, a goal, or a skill into shape. it truly is a beautiful thing to behold. I like how they harden mind and body just so average joes can face the unexpected. plus you learn cool things too, from survival techniques to self-defense and trades
and hey, paying you to learn all these things is great

still, I can't even think about myself harming someone else, and that's the biggest downside. it's pretty much what they train you for, too. are there any other similar careers that teach you similar values but don't revolve around harming others? I was thinking about becoming a fireman or a park ranger. similar enough?


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Outlandish idea: join a monastery. I don't know where you are from, but there are still functioning Christian monasteries in Europe, and other parts of the world, of course. There are more and more Buddhist monasteries around in the West, too. Either religion would be able to accommodate your squeamish nature and will teach self-control. Something monks of all religions have in common is having to wake up ridiculously early, for example ;)


huh, didn't come to mind. I'm not a very religious person
though, I searched for a couple of monasteries nearby and it seems nice enough. they let you do a retreat and whatnot, and some offer work
I'll try to reach them someday and see if I like that kind of life. if it ain't for me either I'll just keep looking


I'm the same way. I have a suggestion for a hobby, not a career (unless you're exceptionally good): what about some kind of martial arts? You get to train hard to strengthen your body and your technique, and the only people you're ever going to hurt are people who agree to fight.


I really love martial arts, in fact. I always become a little bit hesitant at sparring but I'm currently in the look for a gym. right now I'm peniless, so it'll have to wait. still, great advice. not something I can make a living with but certainly something to keep in mind


Consider volunteering with the UN when you meet the requirements. The assignments often require the same training and discipline of the military yet you're serving solely for humanitarian purposes. It's tough work and duty overseas is a minimum of 6 months with pay depending on the location and skills you bring, but it's experience that is fulfilling every single day.



woah, that sounds great
thanks, man


Martial arts teacher.
Not a very stable kind of profession, that is granted, but it may be fulfilling. You need a whole lot of self-discipline too, so if you don't actually have that to start with it's going to be a problem. Well you actually need a teacher first and that goes a long way actually.
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Those are pretty cool ideas too!


I think that part of that hardness comes from being faced with the ultimate reality: death, and the fact that this death is not merely your own, but the death of your family, your progeny, your civilization, your fellow man, your brothers in arms, everything that your fathers ever worked for and everything you hoped to build for your sons. The ultimate reality is that all of that can and will die. I think part of what you're seeking (and maybe I'm projecting, because I'm sure as sushi seeking it) is to be closer to this reality. Everything in civilization insulates us from that reality, from the idea that things that we love can and will die, and that we can face that death in either a glorifying way, or a cowardly way. We can do what is required to prevent that death, by making someone else face it in the combat, even as we face it our selves in that same encounter, and by acquitting ourselves well, we accept and transcend this death.

You want to face and transcend the death, not just of yourself, but of the oblivion of all, and both the monastic and soldierly life deal with that in their own way, but I think that's what you're really after.


well, I don't think that's what I'm looking for, but your post made me think about it. what am I seeking inside the military?
guidance, a purpouse, a goal. improvement, virility, judgement, maturity, a father figure. that's what I think I'm looking for


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Go rucking. Get a backpack, fill it with weights, go for a walk or a nature-walk (or a space-walk). Breathe from your belly and keep your spine straight, as a general rule.


A lot of military jobs don't involve combat and a lot of soldiers never see action, even if they've been deployed during wartime.

Armies employ medics, orderlies, cooks, HR specialists, accountants, therapists, doctors, firefighters, etc. Combat training for these people is less about getting them to kill others and more about keeping them from being killed should the worst happen.

It sounds like you're needing something to take the wheel in your life. A lot of the problems and depression of NEET life come from having too many choices and no strong pushes in any particular direction. The structure of army life might do you a lot of good.


not so long ago I got injured while jogging and I'm in standby until my doc gives me the thumbs up
I wanna go back to jogging and taking kickboxing classes but I'll consider what you said
not bad. nco school seems allright too
nonetheless I've done some thinking and I'm the one who's gonna take the wheel. it's for the best, I can't keep sitting around doing nothing awaiting for something to happen, or for people to command me. I have saved up courage, strength and potential that are awaiting to be used, plus I usually resent authority figures a lot. I don't think I could stand having an officer yelling at me 24/7

I'm going for the ranger career. right at the uni inscription line as we speak. not precisely the uni I wanted to go, but I'll take what I can. wish me luck :)


Park rangers (typically considered Park Superintendents) are Special Natural Resources Police Officers. They have to go through firearm training, do a small stint in the police academy and enforce laws.

It may not be the ultimatecomfyrelaxingwilderness job with discipline that you are looking for, but it is an awesome profession. Depending on what park/forest you work at you may have to deal with idiots breaking the law all day long or you may just have to make sure hunters aren't killing each other and go find a lost hiker or two once a week.

t. son of a park superintendent (who also had to go search for lost hikers @ 3am on school nights)

Farming would be an equally awesome profession without the need to hurt anyone. You have total control over your environment and can focus on a permaculture based conservation system. It will also whip your ass into shape. You won't ever forget the first time you have to go save a cow from a 3ft deep mud pool.

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